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  •  Democrats didnt win NY 26 (0+ / 0-)

    and we should remember that FACT

    we didnt win, the GOP LOST

    there were 3 candidates in the upstate race

    a republican
    and the Democrat

    the Dem won with (i think) less than the sum of the votes of the other 2 candidates which means that had the TEAPUBLICAN not been in that race that seat would still be a repub seat.

    so in districts like NY26 our BEST path to victory is to push for a internal fight amongst tea and re pubs and hope WE dems get to ekk out enough victories in these long held republican districts to retake control of the house.

    •  Nope, Hochul would still have won (1+ / 0-)
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      Matt Z

      Please turn off the teevee and the radio, put down the newspaper, and re-check the math.

      If it's
      Not your body
      Then it's
      Not your choice
      AND it's
      None of your damn business!

      by TheOtherMaven on Wed May 25, 2011 at 09:02:03 AM PDT

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    •  Davis, Dems Candidate in 2004 & 2006. (1+ / 0-)
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      Eric Nelson

      You mean the former Dem Congressional Candidate , former Republican, turned Tea Party independent? That Jack Davis?

      You may be right that we don't have a majority of Dems up there, but the numbers tell a hell of story about the impact of issues.

      2002 Republican wins 74% to 22%.
      2004 Republican wins 56% to 44% (Jack Davis is Dem candidate)
      2006 Republican wins 52% to 48%.(Jack Davis is Dem candidate)
      2008 Republican wins 55% to 41%
      2010 Same Republican wins 74% to 26% (then sends shirtless pictures to woman not his wife and resigns.)

      April 15, 2011 House Republicans (with no Dems voting for it) pass the Budget Resolution that is TEOMAWKI (the end of Medicare as we know it.)

      In the 2011 special election, the central theme of the Democrat (Hochul) was 'elect me and I'll protect your Medicare benefits and implement ObamaCare'.

      The Republican (Corwin) solidly defended the GOP Budget/TEOMAWKI and promised to repeal ObamaCare.

      May 24, 2011 Democrat wins 48% to 42% (with Davis (TP) pulling 9%, but given Davis's stand on Medicare*, it's tough to say he split the Pro-TEOMAWKI, Pro-Ryan/GOP Budget voters.)

      A May 21 Seina Poll showed Jack Davis' support came from almost as many Democrats (10%) and Independents (16%) as he did from the Republicans (13%).

      Jack Davis (Dem candidate in 2002 & 2004) is 'TeaParty' candidate whose position on the Ryan/GOP Budget Plan and its "extreme rightwing social engineering"* is as follows:

      "The Ryan Bill does not reduce spending enough and will cut Medicare benefits. I do not support Ryan Bill and never did. I will not cut Social Security or Medicare benefits. I will put American’s back to work. This will provide the money to make the trust funds solvent.
      I oppose privatizing Medicare and forcing seniors to buy insurance with vouchers. This would throw millions of senior citizens into poverty or worse, and it fails to lower health care costs.

      Instead of cutting Medicare and Social Security, we can save money by cutting foreign aid and foreign military commitments, from Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, to Germany, Japan and Italy. We must end corporate welfare and tax giveaways that allow companies like GE to pay no taxes at all...." .

      Hard to call that anything but a defeat for the GOP agenda and the GOP.

      On those issues, Davis's numbers would be added to Hochul's, not Corwin's.

      ** Hat tip to Newt Gingrich.

      We'd rather dream the American Dream than fight to live it or to give it to our kids. What a shame. What an awful, awful shame.

      by Into The Woods on Wed May 25, 2011 at 11:56:45 AM PDT

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