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  •  How come Democratic Outcomes are the one (11+ / 0-)

    thing we seem not allowed to have? Nobody wants to touch Medicare, except our "Representatives." Everybody wants a plan to deal with the Jobs Crisis, except our politicians. 2/3rds or so want out of the wars, but not our politicians. Everybody wants the bankers punished, but not our politicians. Majorities want a major renewables effort, but not our politicians. Large majorities want the Health Insurance companies beaten and tossed out, but not our politicians.

    QUICK! Somebody telegram the White House, the Congress: "We've found that elusive Center at last!!!" You'd think they'd want to win elections by pleasing the center/majority of voters, being all smart and sophisticated like they are.

    I think it was in Nixon's day people talked about "The Credibility Gap" (which should explain itself to younger people.) Now we have a Democracy Gap, and a Reality Gap, where somehow, for some reason, the Democratic Outcomes just can't happen. But the outcomes screwing the ordinary person to reward the most corrupt in society happens time and time and time again.

    Maybe we need a "fuck-the-partisanship" coalition of Americans who pledge we'll not be voting for anyone taking money from banks, insurance, real estate, and the military if we're going to get some democratic outcomes happening in the US. For a change.


    Until we break the corporate virtual monopoly on what we hear and see, we keep losing, don't matter what we do.

    by Jim P on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:32:55 PM PDT

    •  Easy (2+ / 0-)
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      How come Democratic Outcomes are the one thing we seem not allowed to have?

      Because we have a President who doesn't want them.

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

      by accumbens on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:45:25 PM PDT

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    •  I'm good w/that (2+ / 0-)
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      Maybe we need a "fuck-the-partisanship" coalition of Americans who pledge we'll not be voting for anyone taking money from banks, insurance, real estate, and the military if we're going to get some democratic outcomes happening in the US. For a change.

    •  Jim P, I wish I knew (0+ / 0-)

      With all the polls and pollsters, pundits and other beltway oracles, you'd think a politician that was on the popular side of even half of these issues would win in a landslide.

      Not a peep from the peeps in congress. Nothing.

      They seem determined to see how far right they can go without alienating their liberal supporters.

      Maybe Bill Maher was right: (I paraphrase)

      "We don't have a liberal party, we have a conservative party and a right wing wacko party."

      In a world of the blind, the one eyed man is a pariah. Ask Galileo. Ask Darwin.

      by OKParrothead on Wed May 25, 2011 at 08:10:04 PM PDT

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    •  The ObamaDems Are Right Wing Ideologues (0+ / 0-)

      Which explains everything that has happened since Obama's election. Obama and the DC Dems refuse to enact Leftist policy solutions even though they are overwhelmingly popular with the American People. Why? Because Obama and the Establishment Dems would rather lose than move Left. They are Right Wing ideologues.

    •  So people working in those (0+ / 0-)

      industries should not have the right to donate to the persons of their choice?

      Where will you find anyone to vote for? Self funders don't do well at all.

      You have to look beyond your biases.

      I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... I'm asking you to believe in yours. Barack Obama

      by samddobermann on Thu May 26, 2011 at 05:13:51 AM PDT

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      •  Exactly. (0+ / 0-)

        Their base right now is the Banker, etc industries. For some reason they ignore what 60, 67, 70, & 80% of voters want so as to take money from their true Base.

        The under-funded person has won quite frequently, provided they convince people that they are on their side. This is how you evidence that you are not taking bribes from your base (i.e, banking, etc).


        Until we break the corporate virtual monopoly on what we hear and see, we keep losing, don't matter what we do.

        by Jim P on Thu May 26, 2011 at 08:49:01 AM PDT

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