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  •  Squirrel. (9+ / 0-)

    Oh. Sorry.  

    I was distracted for a moment by your comment.

    I was paying attention to the people's undeniable message in NY CD 26.

    But obviously, reading signs and potents about Obama is more important this moment.  

    He should not be our focus.  Congress and our State races should be our focus.

    Obama may listen.  He may not.  

    If and to the extent that he and the national Dem leaders listen to the message of the people of NY CD 26, we can rally around their embrace of that message.

    If and to the extent they do not, we will rally around that message without them (and they will have to do without our active support.)

    But any candidate that fails to heed the lesson of that election is dooming themselves to a Groundhog's Day Hell of 2010.  

    We'd rather dream the American Dream than fight to live it or to give it to our kids. What a shame. What an awful, awful shame.

    by Into The Woods on Wed May 25, 2011 at 06:50:16 PM PDT

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    •  Well (4+ / 0-)
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      I largely agree with what you are saying. What needs to be done is focus on state and local races.

      It's the policy stupid

      by Ga6thDem on Wed May 25, 2011 at 07:06:03 PM PDT

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    •  Seriously, because who cares what the President... (0+ / 0-)

      of the United States says. He hardly means any of it anyways, right?

      •  we cannot practically primary Obama (1+ / 0-)
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        We can call our senators and congressman and make it very. very. clear that cutting medicare is unacceptable.

        $ to DFA, none to DSCC/DCCC/DNC

        by grrr on Wed May 25, 2011 at 07:54:40 PM PDT

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        •  better is to work on getting the (0+ / 0-)

          new democratic house and regaining some senators.

          DFA doesn't win elections, the others do.

          I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... I'm asking you to believe in yours. Barack Obama

          by samddobermann on Thu May 26, 2011 at 04:21:48 AM PDT

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      •  If we wait for him and depend on him and throw (2+ / 0-)

        fits of angst every time he disappoints us, exactly how does that serve the cause.  

        Sooner or later he too will be gone and the fight will still be going on.

        I had hoped one of his great accomplishments might be to bring to citizen activation in the governing process what his campaign brought to individual activiation in the finance and conduct of his poltical campaign.

        He may yet.

        But on that fundamental matter and on the issues we have being battled out before us, they are more important than he is, especially if all we can do is throw poo at each other over who's a denier and who's a cheerleader and who's a purist and who's a hippy-puncher.

        The distraction into nothingness and the diversion into dispair does nothing for the cause.  

        Criticize him all you want.  I certainly have and do.

        Just don't obsess.

        It really is not all about him.  

        And to the extent it is about him, a stronger popular movement will do more to move him towards the direction we'd like than our personal blog critique.

        We'd rather dream the American Dream than fight to live it or to give it to our kids. What a shame. What an awful, awful shame.

        by Into The Woods on Wed May 25, 2011 at 07:59:31 PM PDT

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        •  That's your response? You're done talking... (0+ / 0-)

          about this, but instead of just leaving or saying you're done talking about it, you have to pretend that I'm somehow obsessed with the President and just need to stop talking about this (because you certainly won't, if I don't first).

          I assume that you've been engaging in some serious citizen action with one hand while typing these comments with the other.

    •  But Obama already knows (1+ / 0-)
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      what you have been talking about. That's why he has put in place Donald Berwick at CMS.

      They are working on this gently. This is America. You can't tell doctors "you can't do that." It is going to be a matter of education — of people, of their relatives, of Doctors themselves.

      Look at the hysteria when the committee (I forget its name) said that automatic mammograms of women under 50 was not recommended. People freaked.

      We are so over scanned. Cancer experts estimate that 3% of cancers are caused by the medically ordered  radiation.

      So people have to be educated.

      I'm asking you to believe. Not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington ... I'm asking you to believe in yours. Barack Obama

      by samddobermann on Thu May 26, 2011 at 04:19:29 AM PDT

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