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  •  We can go completely fossil free on our (2+ / 0-)
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    electrical grid within 20 years.

    As for transportation, especially heavy transportation and flight, I'm not sure the technology is there

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White

    by zenbassoon on Sun May 29, 2011 at 04:25:15 PM PDT

    •  It's on its way. (1+ / 0-)
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      If we put resources into the research, it will be there soon.  There are ways to power cars by using solar to collect the electricity and store it in batteries.  The only issue is that the batteries are not yet as energy dense as they need to be to go as far as we would want them to in the US.  That said, the technology is already there for this type of thing on a commuter car basis.

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      by Ross Lampert on Sun May 29, 2011 at 04:28:26 PM PDT

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      •  But those cars will still need oil for the engine. (1+ / 0-)
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        Get rid of that and you've got something.

        "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White

        by zenbassoon on Sun May 29, 2011 at 04:31:21 PM PDT

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        •  electric cars don't require any oil (1+ / 0-)
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          Even a car like the Chevy Volt, which has a back up gas generator to recharge the battery, does not use oil as a lubricant.

          I believe that the range of electric cars will increase dramatically with new battery technology.

      •  That 'only' is a Behemoth (3+ / 0-)

        If battery tech existed that let you transport energy as easily as you can with gasoline, there would be no need for a program.  Everyone would be driving electric already.  

        Except for Harley riders.  

        Stop. Stand up. Make a sign. Walk around in public. Be polite and orderly and the rest takes care of itself. Want to shake up the Plutocrats? Demonstrate your attention to politics.

        by Quicklund on Sun May 29, 2011 at 05:59:30 PM PDT

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        •  those two lines in the graph will someday cross... (2+ / 0-)
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          ... as gasoline becomes more expensive and battery technologoy and economics improve.

          Imagine how much the air quality in cities like Delhi and Sao Paulo would improve if scooters and motorcycles went electric.

          •  The gas part of the curve, yes (0+ / 0-)

            I am not so certain about battery tech.  There is no guarantee chemical battery tech will ever allow enough ergs to be packed into a small enough, light enough, affordable package.

            Stop. Stand up. Make a sign. Walk around in public. Be polite and orderly and the rest takes care of itself. Want to shake up the Plutocrats? Demonstrate your attention to politics.

            by Quicklund on Mon May 30, 2011 at 11:17:17 AM PDT

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    •  electrified rail isn't new technology (5+ / 0-)

      we just need to spend the money to get it built.

    •  We may have to actually change a bit. (0+ / 0-)

      Flying isn't going to work on electricity, but fast trains do. Trucks can't compete with trains energy-wise. It's all about convenience and instant gratification.
      As long as we insist on getting there now, having it all now, gas is an important part of the transportation system. If we can let go of that, alternatives become easier to live with.

      "I almost died for the international monetary system; what the hell is that?" ~ The In-laws

      by Andhakari on Sun May 29, 2011 at 10:50:07 PM PDT

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