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    KiB

    downthread about how this poster openly states that he is a nuclear industry worker on his own profile page.

    I appreciate his transparency here.

    •  Thank you mo. Not that this is a surprise... (2+ / 0-)
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      mahakali overdrive, Russgirl

      I am sorry to say that I wish he would take his hardly disinterested propaganda somewhere else. It is an interesting exercise to have this discussion with him, but there doesn't seem to be much of a true exchange.
      Or maybe, for the sake of people who don't look him up on his profile page, he could put the information about his job in every posting.

      •  People, do YOU work for the GAS (0+ / 0-)

        companies? You do their work for them, just a the German Greens have. Mahakali, don't be a liar. I've worked in a natural gas fired thermal unit for 25 years and diesel GTs. I've never worked nuclear although I could of. Should I be surprised that gas companies who support solar and wind, as Joseph Kennedy openly admitted are paying you? No, but since I can't prove it, and you can't prove what you say, why don't you drop it?

        You have to understand that people are committed to the technology not "The Industry". We are environmentalists who see nuclear as the only way to save the planet. Just like the folks at bravenewclimate.com and nucleargreen.blogsphot.com do.

        "we don't need baseload"??!!! WTF are you talking about!? Do you  even know what baseload is? You need baseload to FEED the grid or you have no grid. The grid doesn't exist if there is no load. No solar, no nuclear, no wind. Baseload is the minimum 24/7 energy provided so that when I turn the light switch on or the they melt bauxite to make aluminum, it's there.

        Dr. Isaac Asimov: "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny ...'"

        by davidwalters on Mon May 30, 2011 at 02:55:10 PM PDT

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        •  Well then, my bad for the (0+ / 0-)

          misinterpretation. You said a "plant operator" on your profile. I probably did make a cognitive leap there. My apologies.

        •  Well, I am a teacher myself. (1+ / 0-)
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          And the Greens and environmental groups in Germany are for gas as a bridging fuel because it makes sense. Funnily enough, none of them seem to think that nuclear makes sense. I have tried to explain to you why.
          And as I said, not that you were listening, if you combine the path to a renewable future with energy efficiency, the overall need for gas will nevertheless decrease. Try to pay attention, will you?

          We are environmentalists who see nuclear as the only way to save the planet. Just like the folks at bravenewclimate.com and nucleargreen.blogsphot.com do.

          Yea, I don't believe you, sorry. I mean I believe that the links are correct but I also believe that the rest is rubbish and I won't waste my time with this, there is enough to do as it is. And I do think this - and probably you - are sponsored by the industry. I am sorry to say that I concluded that from your statements, not from your profile.
          we don't need baseload"??!!! WTF are you talking about!? Do you  even know what baseload is? You need baseload to FEED the grid or you have no grid. The grid doesn't exist if there is no load. No solar, no nuclear, no wind. Baseload is the minimum 24/7 energy provided so that when I turn the light switch on or the they melt bauxite to make aluminum, it's there.

          Yes, I know about electricity... You obviously need
          electricity in the grid - you should know that I know that, by the way, did you read my postings at all? why are we talking about this? - but in order to keep the grid balanced you don't need it to be fed baseload or let me make it completely clear - you don't need plants which supply a baseload. You can use a combination of fluctuating sources. And now please don#t try to explain to me how the grid is balanced at different times, at peak times or how it has to be permanently monitored and balanced...Because I know that already. If you had read my postings you could have concluded that.

          Well, one last thing, just in case you are not what I think you are:
          Open your mind and get it around a new concept :-)
          Change is a-coming :-)
          The future is renewable and that is good on oh so many levels :-)

          The future is renewable.

          by KiB on Tue May 31, 2011 at 12:24:01 AM PDT

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