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  •  You mean many of them were replaced by Republicans (0+ / 0-)

    Do you really mean to celebrate that?

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    by MichaelNY on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 12:55:47 AM PDT

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    •  Don't put words in my mouth. It's dishonest (0+ / 0-)

      and shameful on your part.

      We had a good progressive candidate, John Laesch, running in the Dem primary.  THIS website worked against him and worked to get Foster elected.

      It was disgusting.

      So whenever I heard Markos or just about anyone else in the adm bitch and complain about blue dogs, I have to laugh my ass off at the hypocrisy.

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

      by edwardssl on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 10:57:14 AM PDT

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      •  The old district (1+ / 0-)
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        had lots of rural counties. A progressive was going to have trouble there no matter what. Even with his supposed centrism, Foster barely managed to beat an awful GOP candidate. Imagine how a progressive would have fared while being crushed in the Fox Valley.

        21, male, Kyoto-01 (residence) RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), hopeless Swingnut

        by sapelcovits on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 03:20:27 PM PDT

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        •  Foster beat Oberweis 52% to 47% (1+ / 0-)
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          That wasn't that close.

          See the response below.  Due to growing minority populations in Aurora and Elgin, the demographics had shifted dramatically in the progressives favor.

          Remember, rural means - not alot of people.

          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

          by edwardssl on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 07:12:21 PM PDT

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      •  No apologies from me (0+ / 0-)

        If you think an unabashed liberal would have done better in marginal districts, look at Grayson's humiliating loss.

        There are other places on DailyKos where you can make faith-based arguments that progressives can win everywhere. However, on DailyKos Elections, you have to give a genuinely fact-based argument - something the entire site is supposed to be based on, but too often varies from.

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        by MichaelNY on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 04:06:35 PM PDT

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        •  Bullshit. I live here and I damn well know (0+ / 0-)

          Laesch had a perfect opportunity to win after Hastert's disgrace.  But I suppose it'd be pretty difficult assessing that reality all the way from NY.

          Between growing minority populations in Aurora, Elgin and Dekalb, spurred to the polls due to popular latino candidates on the ballot, along with independents who were sick and tired of the republican crap in 2008 (not to mention the repubs ran a horrible candidate), Laesch would have won.  And we would have had a real progressive in congress, instead of bluedog Foster.

          But the DKos FPers had twinkling stars in their eyes when they saw how much money Foster had and was willing to spend on a campaign.  They fell for it just as foolishly as Rahm and Durbin, who were also pushing for Foster's candidacy.

          And the result?  Foster got his ass kicked last year.  He's a proven loser and we can do better.

          "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

          by edwardssl on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 07:06:43 PM PDT

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          •  yup, I'm sure (1+ / 0-)
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            Laesch wouldn't have gotten his ass kicked. Aurora and Elgin may have growing minority populations, but they didn't turn out, and I seriously doubt having a progressive on the ballot would have changed that (unless you want to argue that none of the statewide candidates were progressive).

            21, male, Kyoto-01 (residence) RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), hopeless Swingnut

            by sapelcovits on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 11:16:13 PM PDT

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            •  Yes, in fact Aurora DID turn out (1+ / 0-)
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              We had a very popular latina state rep on the ticket, and her supporters turned out in DROVES.

              "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK

              by edwardssl on Fri Jun 03, 2011 at 09:40:05 AM PDT

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              •  Turnout dropped 20 points between 2008 and 2010 (1+ / 0-)
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                with basically the entire remainder of the district (sans Elgin and DuPage, maybe) voting heavily Republican, Aurora alone wouldn't have been enough.

                Btw, Aurora voted for Foster over Laesch in the primary by 20 points, so clearly despite his supposed conservatism, Foster was still popular in the Democratic core of the district.

                21, male, Kyoto-01 (residence) RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), hopeless Swingnut

                by sapelcovits on Fri Jun 03, 2011 at 03:56:43 PM PDT

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