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  •  not splitting hairs (0+ / 0-)

    I don't need anyone's kudos. The fact is, these disasters were visited upon us by both parties on a highly bipartisan basis, whether it was Clinton-era deregulation or Democrats playing sucker for George Bush: after Florida, anyone who went along with that mumbling fraud was willfully ignorant.

    I'm glad that you concede that the info on the wars the dems got was "suspect to say the least": that's all the more reason they should have tried to stop the war in Iraq before it got started. They didn't though, did they?

    And now, by the way, the democrats want to extend the very policies that came out of that disgusting illegal war: the PATRIOT act, the witretapping, the indefinite detentions.

    •  I won't get into a pissing match (0+ / 0-)

      I wrote your profile name down so I won't ever give ya kudos again since you don't "need" that.  

      I'm not sure if you know it but not all congresspeople or senators were privvy to everything that went into creating the information that was given to them during the process of going into Iraq.  Hey...I agree it was not something we should have done and if ya want to put the same blame on dems as repubs and Bush, then that's on you.  

      Like I said, we'd not agree ever, never, on this so ain't gonna be drawn into some pissing match on it.

      Think as you want.  It's a free country, thank goodness.

      -- **Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.**

      by r2did2 on Tue May 31, 2011 at 10:09:34 AM PDT

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      •  Well, it's kind of like arguing (0+ / 0-)

        whether the serial killer is solely at fault, or whether the cowardly folks who didn't try to stop him when they could are equally guilty, or not guilty at all, or not as guilty. We've been betrayed by all sides of our political setup, perhaps to varying degrees. Do you seriously dispute that?

        Conservatism explained: Carrots for the rich and the corporate. Sticks for the workers and the poor. It really is that simple.

        by DaveW on Tue May 31, 2011 at 11:39:32 AM PDT

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        •  Of course not..Dave (0+ / 0-)

          Rhetorical question.

          I won't answer because regardless of what I said it could be argued.

          Thanks for participating, though.

          -- **Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.**

          by r2did2 on Tue May 31, 2011 at 01:00:07 PM PDT

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      •  sig (0+ / 0-)

        disregarding the rest of our comment thread, my old man always taught me that the best part of an argument is when you realize you're wrong, because that means you learned something.

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