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  •  Nobody "missed" it - they deliberately (5+ / 0-)

    ignored it and/or suppressed any timely remedies for it . . .

    •  So they could use it for massive profits (3+ / 0-)
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      Wolf10, MrSandman, salmo

      while claiming "Oh the market did it!" and "Who ever would have thought that was a bubble!" while selling worthless derivatives and shorting their own position before the crash... hmmmm.....

      Seriously. This manipulation crap has got to stop.

      Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. -- Harry S Truman

      by YucatanMan on Tue May 31, 2011 at 03:12:32 PM PDT

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    •  So did they also get to write off (2+ / 0-)
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      their losses?  Our loan was $240,000 when they foreclosed.  They sold the house 10 months later for $130,000.  If they had simply reduced our principle to match what the house was suddenly worth, we could have stayed.  Instead, they had lots of cleanup to do before they could turn it over, plus they didn't get any payments for months, so the only thing that makes sense is that they knew they could write it all off.  Multiply that by millions and it adds up.

      •  CA Nana - write offs are never worth (1+ / 0-)
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        salmo

        as much as cash. No one ever takes a cash loss so they can book a write off. The maximum value of a write off is the effective tax rate. So even if the tax rate was as high as 40% a write off is only worth 40 cents on the dollar and a dollar of profit is worth 60 cents. They foreclosed on your home for other reasons.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Tue May 31, 2011 at 07:10:51 PM PDT

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        •  Insurance, (1+ / 0-)
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          alizard

          they may have had a derivative that pays for their losses.

          But, more importantly, the people driving the housing bubble had already taken their profits and moved on by the time of the collapse.

          A ponzi scheme ends up "losing" a lot of money too -- but by the time it's due the cons have fled for the Caribbean.

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