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  •  I'm skeptical Georgiou can hurt Berkley (2+ / 0-)
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    Yes he'll have money to attack her, but PPP has him polling in the dirt, and he's got nothing to sell of himself to improve his numbers.  And there's not really any dirt on Shelley personally that I've heard of, nor is there any issue on which to attack her that would help him with Democratic voters.  At worst he could serve as a subterfuge, consciously or not, to hurt her in the general election, if some of his hits would resonate outside the Democratic base.  But really, what can he do to hurt her in November if not flanking her from her right, which is a losing primary strategy and therefore unlikely?

    43, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and a boy, Democrat, VA-10

    by DCCyclone on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 09:56:38 AM PDT

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    •  Well, that's Georgiou's biggest challenge... (3+ / 0-)
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      But really, what can he do to hurt her in November if not flanking her from her right, which is a losing primary strategy and therefore unlikely?

      His message is a muddled hot mess. I've heard from multiple reliable sources that he turned away progressive groups helping with media and GOTV last year (anti-Angle, anti-Sandoval), and he did it because he "did not want to be associated with anything 'progressive'". But now in order to really be a threat to Shelley, he'll have to challenge her from the left! IMHO that's why Georgiou is now calling himself "anti-bailouts" and promoting his past as a consumer advocate attorney.

      Ultimately, I agree with you that he will only get so far in the primary. Again, Nevada is NOT California, so Joe Trippi's "divide and conquer" games will probably only turn Georgiou to even more of a "persona non grata" among the Reid Machine folks. Dean Heller's campaign is already trying to use him as another channel for anti-Shelley attacks, so he'd better watch out if he doesn't want to get kicked back across the state line.

    •  Like I said (0+ / 0-)

      TARP. Maybe it's receding too far into the past now for him to get much mileage out of it, but maybe not - after all, the downturn in Nevada's been worse than just about anywhere else. If he turns into a purity troll on the bailouts, that court damage Berkley.

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      by David Nir on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 01:03:34 PM PDT

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      •  I don't think TARP ever mattered on our side (0+ / 0-)

        Who in a Democratic primary was hurt by TARP in 2010?  I think absolutely no one, I can't think of anyone who was even mildly damaged.  Did anyone even use it as a weapon?

        TARP is a bugaboo with voters much more on the GOP side, mostly because of teabaggers.

        The left is much less hostile to TARP.  It goes without saying that Obama voted for it, that he supports it and faithfully administers it.  So opposing TARP is opposing our own President.  I think rank-and-field Democrats implicitly "get" that, and they're not going to respond favorably to a TARP attack by some Rich Dude against a sitting Congresswoman whom one-third of the state, and probably 40% of the state's Democrats, have been supporting for many years.

        43, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and a boy, Democrat, VA-10

        by DCCyclone on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 01:20:13 PM PDT

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        •  Where tarp could hurt, potnetially (0+ / 0-)

          is with independents in the General.

          •  I don't think so (1+ / 0-)
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            Inoljt

            TARP has never been a potent issue with voters.  Do you remember any TARP ads by anyone last cycle?  I sure don't.

            TARP was bipartisan.  Bush, Obama, and McCain all were for it.  And too many House members and Senators of both parties voted for it for either side to use it against the other.  That's what makes TARP ineffective as an attack against someone, that it was, in fact, truly bipartisan.

            I don't think Romney or Pawlenty can use it, neither one of them has slammed TARP before.  That's no surprise since it was their own party's leadership team of Bush/McConnell/Boehner whipped its passage on Team Red.  The others who have a shot at the nomination all are crazies, they're going to have too many problems with independents to overcome them with TARP.

            And on top of all that, if TARP was a non-issue in last year's election, it's going to be even less important next year.

            43, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and a boy, Democrat, VA-10

            by DCCyclone on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 05:04:57 PM PDT

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            •  I'm pretty sure I do remember TARP ads, actually (0+ / 0-)

              although I can't remember where off the top of my head. I agree that it probably won't be the most potent issue in 2012, though.

              •  In the Arkansas Dem primary (2+ / 0-)
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                MichaelNY, andyroo312

                Bill Halter bashed Blanche Lincoln's support of TARP.  While I would have preferred Halter be nominated, that particular line of attack struck me as a somewhat irresponsible cheap shot, from any candidate.  TARP was bad, but in the atmosphere of September/October 2008 the presumed alternative (letting banks fail en masse) would have been much worse.

                •  And Sen. Halter is really glad... (1+ / 0-)
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                  MichaelNY

                  He chose to use that line of attack.

                  I agree, though. Chemotherapy sucks and it makes people feel like shit, but it beats just letting the cancer to go terminal.

                  Independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native, Swingnut for life, and keeper of the DKE glossary.

                  by SaoMagnifico on Thu Jun 02, 2011 at 08:17:51 PM PDT

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