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  •  of course (0+ / 0-)

    Baldwin and kagen are the weakest candidates, and are the only ones to trail in any hypothetical matchup. If that is still the case next year, I will campaign against both of them. Strongest candidate possible in every race. Learn from Buck, O'Donnel, Brady and Miller. Do not throw away unnecessary elections due to candidate purity, or quota politics, or ideological purity.using candidates have no votes in the senate, no matter how much their base loves them.

    •  Kagen and Baldwin (0+ / 0-)

      Were both in pretty strong positions, considering it was a poll based on little other than name recognition. In my opinion, lingering sentiment over the Great Overreach of 2011 will carry more than a few Wisconsin Dems next year, not least of all because Obama will be on the top of the ticket.

      23, Solid Liberal Democrat, DKE Gay Caucus Majority Whip, IN-02 (home), IN-03 (birth), SC-03 (early childhood), IN-09 (college); Swingnut

      by HoosierD42 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 07:18:26 AM PDT

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      •  i am not swayed by niceties and hopeful thinking (0+ / 0-)

        Strongest candidate in each race, period. I know that isn't a popular position with Kossacks. But O'Donnel and Buck were incredibly popular at Redstate. You can't let emotion and wishfulness guide such decisions. Once the polling becomes more consistent, and the strongest candidate emerges in poll after poll, I will pick my horse.

        •  Um, I'm not a Kossack (3+ / 0-)

          I'm a swingnut, just like you.

          You have to pick your candidates and make the polls, not wait for them to do the thinking for you. This is a perfect storm for a progressive, workhorse candidate like Baldwin and I'm going to put myself out there for her instead of sitting on my ass waiting for polls.

          23, Solid Liberal Democrat, DKE Gay Caucus Majority Whip, IN-02 (home), IN-03 (birth), SC-03 (early childhood), IN-09 (college); Swingnut

          by HoosierD42 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 07:34:09 AM PDT

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          •  that was not supposed to be directed at you (0+ / 0-)

            Sorry for that confusion. But my position on this is not popular here among the resident Kossacks. I know you were over at ssp for a long time before we moved, I did not mean to imply you weren't a swingnut.

            And i completely respect your Passion. And if you and your fellow Baldwin supporters can work and get her general election numbers higher than anyone else's, I will join you on the streets of Hudson, Superior, and Green Bay. You've got about a year.

        •  Also (2+ / 0-)
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          The Caped Composer, MichaelNY

          My choice is not based on "emotion [or] wishfullness". The poll I linked, which you claim to have read, shows Baldwin beating all comers, except Tommy Thompson, and that was by 1 point. And that was with 47% having no opinion of her. She has room to grow. And with the situation in the state, Democrats are in the perfect position to nominate a candidate like Baldwin, as I mentioned above.

          Don't presume to lecture me.

          23, Solid Liberal Democrat, DKE Gay Caucus Majority Whip, IN-02 (home), IN-03 (birth), SC-03 (early childhood), IN-09 (college); Swingnut

          by HoosierD42 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 07:41:24 AM PDT

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        •  Strongest candidate has more dimensions (3+ / 0-)

          Than just polling. Tammy Baldwin will be able to raise much, much more than any other candidate, possibly even more than Feingold. There's also enthusiasm among the grassroots, which Tammy would have in spades over Kind.

          Tammy Baldwin is no Christine O'Donnell or Ken Buck. It should be noted that both of them were outsiders, not 12 year House veterans.

          It should also be noted that all of these questions came up when she first ran, when the 2nd CD was a lot more rural and a swing district.

    •  That Poll showed Baldwin strongest (2+ / 0-)
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      Behind Feingold. And Russ probably isn't running. There are legitimate arguments to be made that Baldwin's policy positions will hurt her more than Kagan or Kind, but they can't be made using that poll.

      •  Sure they can (1+ / 0-)
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        Baldwin is far better known than Kind and Kagen.  In contrast, everyone has heard of Tommy, so being unknown to some almost certainly odders more growth opportinities.

        There is no massive difference either way between Baldwin/Kind/Kagen in those polls, but it is easy to suggest that poll offers better news to Kind and Kagen than Baldwin.

        http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/13/21516/201/804/660248

        by tommypaine on Tue Jun 07, 2011 at 04:46:26 PM PDT

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