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  •  WA state is a democratic stronghold (2+ / 0-)
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    yakimagrama, supercereal

    I'm thinkin' the govenorship will remain in the democrat's hands.  The legislature is majority democratic and all committees are seated by democrats and majority democratic.

    It's a good place.  I'd move there if it didn't rain like 363 out of 365 days :-).

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    by r2did2 on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 12:22:01 PM PDT

    •  I'm not taking this race for granted (5+ / 0-)

      Plutocracy too long tolerated leaves democracy on the auction block, subject to the highest bidder ~ Bill Moyers

      by Lefty Coaster on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 12:29:54 PM PDT

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    •  We moved to the East side of the state to retire. (1+ / 0-)
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      roadbear

      Though this spring has been unusually cold and wet, we can usuallly count on sunny days.  Of course you would have to get used to being the underdog in local elections.  However we could always use more active support.

      One Washington-Gregoire! One Country-Obama!

      by yakimagrama on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 12:33:41 PM PDT

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    •  Oh, piffle... (2+ / 0-)
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      grover, AspenFern

      The weather isn't THAT bad. This last year, it only rained 360 days out of 365. ;-)

    •  Summer is sunny and not too hot (1+ / 0-)
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      roadbear

      Don't buy into the rainy reputation. Beautiful summers.

      And Inslee's the man!

      •  Patriotboy is lying to you. He (3+ / 0-)
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        David Jarman, James Allen, AspenFern

        wants you to move  here to increase our dreadful land values.

        It always rains here (360 out of 365 days, as noted above). The snow is wet, heavy slop that isn't good for skiing. The wine is undrinkable swill. The beer is even worse. Or restaurants are terrible.

        The slugs here are as large as and resemble dog poop. And we often have bears hanging around very suburban elementary schools. (seriously).

        You're best off wherever you are now.

        © grover. "Buy! Buy!" says the sign in the shop window. "Why? Why?" says the junk in the yard. -- John Denver

        by grover on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 01:22:20 PM PDT

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        •  How unfortunate (1+ / 0-)
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          James Allen

          South of the Columbia River, at least the beer, wine, and restaurants are better.

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          by SaoMagnifico on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 04:05:05 PM PDT

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          •  I think (3+ / 0-)
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            James Allen, SaoMagnifico, grover

            he's taking the Tom McCall strategy to preserving local quality of life (i.e. ward off the Californians by boasting about how much things suck).

            Only the snow, slug, and bear sentences are true.

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            by David Jarman on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 04:22:36 PM PDT

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            •  Oh, well, that's true (0+ / 0-)

              Californians wouldn't like it in Oregon or Washington. Trust me, it is a lot rainier and there aren't hardly any good surf beaches.

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              by SaoMagnifico on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 04:34:54 PM PDT

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              •  What most lower 48-ians don't realize (1+ / 0-)
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                Christopher Walker

                is how far north we are. Our entire state is farther north than Minneapolis, and most of it is farther north than Bismark.

                It gets DARK here in the winter. The sun rises late, sets early, and in Western WA, "sun" means dark gray clouds, not a bright orb in the sky.

                Most of the transplants  I know have a hard time getting used to it. They don't realize they get more light outside even in heavy rain than inside. So they really struggle.

                Many move back.

                It's not so much the climate. It's the latititude. Us and Maine. Way up here.  

                But I don't complain. I've done a lot of travel to Alaska in the winter. Now that's a bit dark.

                (Ok, I do complain, by late February, I get kind of whiny. If  I lived in Alaska, I'd have a Permanent Fund check and I could be travelling to somewhere sunny.)

                © grover. "Buy! Buy!" says the sign in the shop window. "Why? Why?" says the junk in the yard. -- John Denver

                by grover on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 05:18:56 PM PDT

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                •  Thanks to the Lambert Conformal Conic projection.. (3+ / 0-)
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                  AspenFern, grover, thetadelta

                  Everyone seems to think Maine is the northernmost of the contiguous United States - but Portland, Oregon, is actually to the north of Portland, Maine! The thing that really blows my mind, though, is that Seattle is north of St. John's, Newfoundland. That's just bizarre.

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                  by SaoMagnifico on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 07:23:10 PM PDT

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                  •  I thought this was cool: (1+ / 0-)
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                    SaoMagnifico
                    The cool thing about Latitude 47 is that it encircles the Earth like a sweatband at about eyebrow level (if the globe were a head), tying Seattle and Spokane to Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia and every other spot on Earth the same distance from the equator and poles.

                    /snip

                    Places are parallel. But not predictable.

                    Imagine you could hover in one spot over the 47th Parallel while the rotating Earth sweeps beneath you.

                    Start levitating at sunrise on the International Dateline, just south of the Aleutian Islands in the blueness of the Bering Sea.

                    You'll watch Pacific waves for awhile, then the Kuril Islands; then Russia's Sikhote-Alin Mountains (where a 70-ton meteorite fell in 1947); Manchuria; Mongolia; Kazakhstan; the Caspian Depression; the Ukraine; Moldova; Romania; Budapest, Hungary; Salzburg, Austria; Bern, Switzerland; the Loire Valley in France.

                    The Atlantic Ocean will drift below you. Next comes Newfoundland, New Brunswick, the Canadian provinces of Quebec and Ontario, Lake Superior, Minnesota, North Dakota, Montana, a sliver of Idaho, and finally, Washington State, the last place on Earth before Latitude 47 slips back to the sea.


                    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/...

                    © grover. "Buy! Buy!" says the sign in the shop window. "Why? Why?" says the junk in the yard. -- John Denver

                    by grover on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 09:25:49 PM PDT

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                    •  I like it! (1+ / 0-)
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                      grover

                      My favorites are the 45th and 46th parallels.

                      I wish I could park the South Island of New Zealand right off the Oregon coast. It would make a lovely addition to the Pacific Northwest. Stewart Island can come too.

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                      by SaoMagnifico on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 09:40:18 PM PDT

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                      •  Good. (1+ / 0-)
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                        SaoMagnifico

                        And Loire Valley. We'll make our own little uh, village here.

                        © grover. "Buy! Buy!" says the sign in the shop window. "Why? Why?" says the junk in the yard. -- John Denver

                        by grover on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 11:00:28 PM PDT

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                        •  Interesting, that (1+ / 0-)
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                          grover

                          The three top pinot noir regions in the world are all between the 45th and 48th parallels: the Willamette Valley and Burgundy (including the Loire Valley) in the Northern Hemisphere and Central Otago in the Southern Hemisphere. The Russian River, Yarra Valley, and Marlborough Region, other highly rated pinot noir regions - though not, in my opinion, quite as consistently excellent - are all between the 37th and the 42nd parallels (the former north, the latter two south).

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                          by SaoMagnifico on Mon Jun 13, 2011 at 11:20:17 PM PDT

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                          •  I don't buy California Pinots pretty much ever. (1+ / 0-)
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                            SaoMagnifico

                            That's what Oregon (and Burgundy, of course) is for.

                            Just like I wouldn't be inclined buy an Oregon Zin.

                            The best Cab I've ever had from an Oregon winery comes from Columbia Valley & Yakima a grapes. THAT is a winemaker who understands that we can try to force grapes to do what we want them to be.... the wine always tastes forced.  

                            Or he can let grapes be who they should be.

                            © grover. "Buy! Buy!" says the sign in the shop window. "Why? Why?" says the junk in the yard. -- John Denver

                            by grover on Tue Jun 14, 2011 at 12:49:19 PM PDT

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                          •  Absolutely... (0+ / 0-)

                            Agreed on California pinots. Maybe it's just my Oregonian bias, but I'd take a Willamette Valley over a Russian River pinot just about every time.

                            If you haven't gotten the chance to try a good one from Central Otago, I strongly recommend it. Mt. Difficulty Roaring Meg is a very good one, as is The People's Pinot Noir (which is cheaper and thus kinder to me at the supermarket). I haven't had the fortune to try a bottle of Lowburn Ferry, but both its 2008 and 2009 vintages were international award-winners. The Peregrine and Mondillo pinots are also highly rated, but I haven't tried either of them. Not sure what availability is like outside of Australasia, though I know Central Otago growers have recently been lobbying to get a geographic indication recognized internationally.

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                            by SaoMagnifico on Tue Jun 14, 2011 at 03:28:39 PM PDT

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                          •  Thanks for the tips. I haven't tried any of these. (0+ / 0-)

                            What fun!

                            © grover. My sockpuppet is a fuzzy blue muppet.

                            by grover on Tue Jun 14, 2011 at 05:04:12 PM PDT

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