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  •  The real mess with all schools (5+ / 0-)

    Is that we have 51 different state (plus DC) sets of school law in this nation. A "charter" doesn't exist as a national thing. As somebody who works in a charter in PA:

    Good: We can't screen out students in admissions, we have to follow all state laws and take all state standardized exams, we have a ton of input as teachers in a lot of the long range and day to day planning of the school, our small size allows for a lot of curricular flexibility.

    Bad: We only get between 65-70% of a sending district's per pupil funding to educate that child, the $ doesn't exist for good libraries/computers/student activities, staff HAS to leave at some point because we're all paid 1/3rd less than staff in good public districts, there is no automatic union representation (and labor law favors management in unionization drives), and some charter operators (not mine thank God) run sweat shop working conditions, and the lack of funding slows down curricular purchases.

    •  Looks like they missed PA in their study. (3+ / 0-)
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      Mostel26, congenitalefty, princss6

      Do you know if:

      PA allows unlimited charters to form in a given year?

      PA has a single authorizing body for charters or multiple?

      Do you know if there is a movement in the state to address the inequalities of salary for charter teachers?

      Sorry for so many questions, but I really am trying to figure this stuff out.

    •  Well, where does the funding come from? (5+ / 0-)
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      Mostel26, Azazello, Clues, Linda Wood, ubertar

      In Ohio, if it's state funding you actually get more than twice the funding per pupil than the public school does. if you're talking the local property-tax funding we passed as levies, we didn't pass those so your kid could cart "his share" to a charter school. You don't have a "share." You have a public school your child and every child can attend. Once you start looking at money as a "packet" your child owns, you're talking a welfare check I pay for with obscenely high property taxes, and then as a childless taxpayer, i think I deserve to get an equal "packet" – a total refund of my property taxes.

      This points up a huge problem with maintaining alternative schools. The cost of maintaining an infrastructure — libraries, computer labs etc — does not increase or decrease in response to the number of pupils. So to ask that the funding be equal to maintain multiple infrastructures simply – to have adequate schools — would require massive tax increases. In the current Ohio system of largely failing for-profit charters, I'm not willing to go there. I'm not increasing my taxes to make David Brennan wealthier and to give him more money to maintain his ownership of the Ohio Republican Party, to which he has given millions.

      Jennifer Brunner for Governor of Ohio 2014

      by anastasia p on Tue Jun 21, 2011 at 08:16:08 AM PDT

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    •  What you classify as "bad"... (1+ / 0-)
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      Mostel26

      pretty much is dispositive against the case being built against charters.  Some of the good, too, but I'm not really familiar with charter schools in PA from a personal perspective.  I only know of teachers and parents who love their kids' school or have recommended charter schools.  

      I for one am tired of pandering to perpetrators --- many of whom are opposed to any discussion however it comes. -- soothsayer99 DPK Caucus

      by princss6 on Tue Jun 21, 2011 at 12:49:50 PM PDT

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      •  good vs. bad (0+ / 0-)
        What you classify as "bad"pretty much is dispositive against the case being built against charters.  Some of the good, too

        I'm curious as to which elements.

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