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  •  Not the same.Detroit is using charters to bust (1+ / 0-)
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    the unions. I don't know if it allows for-profit cos. or not. The Syracuse system is not about union busting or for-profit entities.

    "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

    by tardis10 on Wed Jun 22, 2011 at 01:38:35 AM PDT

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    •  For profits are a part of the program in Syracuse (0+ / 0-)

      as well.

      How do we tell which program is union busting and which isn't?

      I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass. I'm trying to figure out how we can tell? If we can't draw lines in the sand, then it becomes harder to convince folks which programs aren't worth fighting for and which ones are.

      •  What for profit schools are you referencing? (0+ / 0-)

        Or do you just mean that some of the philanthropic partners in the program are corporations? That have no ability to make money from this at all.

        "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

        by tardis10 on Wed Jun 22, 2011 at 04:58:05 AM PDT

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        •  Then why are they a part of the program? (0+ / 0-)

          Only philanthropic reasons?

          Maybe this is how we tell the difference? When a business gives money with no intent of receiving anything in return other than a tax break for making a donation?

          I'm just trying to figure out when it is okay to have business involved and when it isn't.

          •  some conditions (2+ / 0-)
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            I might say that it is no longer philanthropic when:

            - they push a high stakes standardized testing based curriculum
            - they push a long school day and/or school year
            - they ONLY seek to give philanthropic assistance to non-unionized employers
            -their "philanthropic" donations are really a way of getting their hooks into schools. If you're around my age (34) you remember the lame chanel 1 news program we were forced to watch every morning as a condition of getting "free" TVs in every classroom from Chris Wittle.

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