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  •  Not your sig, no... (5+ / 0-)

    I did post this here last October.

    I was reminded of it by reading your diary, but really it was the thought of those 500 to 1 expected deaths and the suffering that will precede those deaths that was my inspiration for reposting it.

    I do not think the human race will smarten up enough to stop mass death from climate change - and in fact I think there are some people who actually want mass death to occur - but maybe the numbers can be lowered a bit if we slow down some?

    Antemedius | Liberally Critical Thinking

    by Edger on Wed Jun 15, 2011 at 07:54:43 PM PDT

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    •  There will be more deaths on top of this (5+ / 0-)

      because of war. The populations most affected by climate change will begin to migrate into safer areas. They don't have a choice. Those in the better-off areas will try to keep them out. This is going to start long before 2050.

      All growth that depletes the Earth's resources needs to slow way down. That includes economic growth based on resource usage and pollution as well as human population growth.

      This is a terrible topic, but I thank you for bringing it up again. Very few people are willing to face what will inevitably happen if we don't change. And nothing can change if people refuse to face it. So I agree: barring a miracle, we'll be living in a truly horrid world of our own making.

    •  reducing consumption levels: (2+ / 0-)
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      Edger, RiaD

      The terrible irony is that the plutocracy is enforcing this on Americans right now, as a side-effect of their own rapacious greed.  

      And the blunt fact is that in a zero-growth paradigm, it's all about distribution:  "who gets how much?"

      Think about the implications of that, and they lead directly to the need for socialism.   There's no escaping it, so we should stop pussyfooting around it and embrace it.  

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