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  •  Great advice (2+ / 0-)
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    Louise, CoyoteMarti

    Let's deflate enthusiasm before it even builds up!

     Jebus.

     The truth is that without passion and hope, all you have left is cynicism and 'objectivism'.

     Your message is: Don't get your hopes up. ????

     Great campaign slogan.

    ~a little change goes a long way~

    by missliberties on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 11:00:47 AM PDT

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    •  missliberties, I'm going to give it a chance (4+ / 0-)

      It's either that or surrender to the nihilism, the snarkiness, the despair and the backbiting.

      I'm glad someone with connections, knowledge. experience and mojo is proposing this. This approach is a solid one, long-term coalition building and concentrating on elections in order to affect change. The Right has been working for decades to convince Americans that they want corporations to take over the country. Democracy has been perverted by traitors with money. We need this.

      American Dream? It's a great name. The American Dream wasn't always a new wardrobe every year, and a new car every two. It was always the freedom to assemble, to speak, to work and to love whom you chose and raise a family if you wanted to, to get an education, to think, move and prosper no matter where you came from, your race, creed or background.

      The American Dream was that all diverse people could actually put aside their differences and use the government to solve their problems. Let's get it back.

      They say "cut back" - we say "fight back"!

      by Louise on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 11:56:19 AM PDT

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    •  I disagree aside from not needing a "slogan" (2+ / 0-)
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      The truth is that without passion and hope, all you have left is cynicism and 'objectivism'.

      Says who? Usually it's hopelessness that drives you to action.
      And it's passion that can lead you to "dumb actions".

      Cynicism is a cop-out for people who can't admit they don't know how to solve a problem they are capable to understand as needing a solution. Objectivism is abused by people who can't admit that they have difficulties to stand up to a decision for supporting an action, they should make for moral reasons.

    •  I'm not optimistic, but I'm hopeful. (0+ / 0-)

      It's a decent attitude.  I will also back Van's plan, but of course if it goes off the rails I'll go "well, such plans usually don't work" and start again...

      Read pp. 1-7 of Krugman's _The Great Unraveling_ (available from Google Books). NOW.

      by neroden on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 01:42:37 PM PDT

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      •  hopefully, you'll work to make it better (2+ / 0-)
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        as it unfolds.

        "There's nothing serious about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending a trillion dollars on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires." - President Obama

        by fhcec on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 02:11:57 PM PDT

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