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  •  Well, I want to do something. (3+ / 0-)
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    vigilant meerkat, neroden, output

    The stream was interrupted for a while for me. I have to listen again to catch the end.

    I had heard Jones before on NN and was impressed. So, whatever is petty, words matter. And I think the word HOPE and DREAM are not doing it for me anymore.

    I want something that is hands-on, down-to-earth and action orientated.

    And the President says a lot of things. If he wants to keep "my hope" alive, he needs to start "doing" something that would help me "hoping again".

    Anyhow, I am just amazed that there are four words that Americans of all walks of life (and that includes the foes you are fighting against) use, overuse, abuse, misuse and quote every darn minute when they don't know something else to say.

    Freedom, liberty, dream and hope.

    They don't say egality, equality, fairness, justice, humble, compassion  that often.

    Why do you think people are not getting tired of "hopin' and dreamin'" if that's all they ever hear?

    •  I HOPE that your attitude changes (2+ / 0-)
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      mimi, CoyoteMarti

      So does Van Jones.

      Good luck.

      ~a little change goes a long way~

      by missliberties on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 11:54:01 AM PDT

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      •  so do I :-) /nt (2+ / 0-)
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          CoyoteMarti, neroden

          think of it as movement building.

          That's what he's talking about, and there's plenty of opportunity for hard work in those words.

          "There's nothing serious about a plan that claims to reduce the deficit by spending a trillion dollars on tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires." - President Obama

          by fhcec on Sat Jun 18, 2011 at 01:50:10 PM PDT

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          •  oh, I heard now his speech in full again, (0+ / 0-)

            and could listen attentively. Of course I understand his words as an effort of movement building and do not want my words understood as pulling this effort down.

            But I can't help but feeling that he talks about the obvious and that the audience he is addressing feels that is what they have done or are doing already. In that regard I don't think he is introducing something new.

            I mean if people here are reading and talking for years and years through thick and thin, I think they do it because they want to move something and incite change and fight for the values they see as being the true ones. May be that's why I was not that impressed by his words. Blogging and writing on dailykos IS movement building.

            And in the end he said how mad he is and sick and tired of being bashed and pushed around by the media etc.

            And what does he want to do about to change that? Debate Glen Beck???

            Holy cow, debating Glen Beck will really make the change we want to see. No, honestly, for real, he wants to debate Glen Beck????

            I feel we are way beyond the point finding salvation in trying to debate Beck's arguments. While you debate the world is going down the drain, people despair losing everything, from jobs to houses to their mental sanity, the radiation levels are spreading around in the environment and ... you want to spend your energy debating Glen Beck??

            I must be dreaming.  Squeeze me, I want to wake up and stop that dream.

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