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  •  At least I'm not manipulative. (0+ / 0-)

    BTW, I remember you stating in a previous diary that  the ISAF effort in Marjah had failed, yet you never followed-up.  Is that because it turned out that your atatement was not true?

    Posted on Thu, Feb. 17, 2011
    Big gains reported in Afghan town that Taliban once owned
    Saeed Shah | McClatchy Newspapers

    last updated: March 02, 2011 01:13:49 PM

    MARJAH, Afghanistan — Schools that the Taliban closed have reopened in this southern Afghan town, and some girls are even back in the classrooms. The wheat and cotton crops are flourishing, and poppy cultivation is way down.

    A year after a major American-led operation to oust the Islamist insurgents from their onetime stronghold, security has improved dramatically, according to Afghan officials and U.S. troops, and townspeople say they no longer live in terror.

    With some 2,000 Marines stationed in and around Marjah, the militants have been pushed to the fringe of the area, and the hustle and bustle of everyday life has returned, helped by a huge injection of aid and development projects by the Marines.

    Marjah residents no longer fear meeting Americans, and they now routinely pass on intelligence about Taliban movements.

    "Security is good now. Life is better," said Gul Ahmed, a 34-year-old wheat farmer in northeast Marjah, close to a U.S. Marine patrol base. "Bad people like the Taliban cannot come here now."

    "The Taliban took money from us," he said. "They took food from us. They forced us to go with them to other provinces to fight."

    If the relatively peaceful conditions hold, Marjah, in Helmand province, could become a symbol of counterinsurgency at work in Afghanistan. It also would bear out the claim by U.S.-led international forces that a "surge" of 30,000 additional American troops last year has stemmed the insurgency in its southern heartland, Helmand and the neighboring province of Kandahar.

    What does your predicitve fail in regards to Marjah say about your general analysis of Afghanistan?  It sure doesn't lend weight to your prediction about ISAF not being able to help create a credible Afghan National Security Force, that much is sure.

    You know, Laurence, sometimes it's good to admit when you were wrong.  When one refuses to acknowledge errors, then one can't continue to learn and progress as a person and intellect, after all.

    "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

    by Lawrence on Wed Jun 22, 2011 at 10:29:03 AM PDT

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    •  yes (0+ / 0-)

      by focusing so heavily on marjah, they finally chased the taliban away. mostly to the north, where they're making inroads. the north where the taliban and the pashtun have never made inroads.

      the government is a failure, the military is a failure, the economy is a failure. your support of a failed war is a failure.

      The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

      by Laurence Lewis on Wed Jun 22, 2011 at 11:22:03 AM PDT

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      •  Factually incorrect, once again. (0+ / 0-)

        I think you just don't understand how insurgency in Afghanistan works.

        The Taliban/IMU/insurgents have been returning to their limited pockets in the north since 2005/2006.

        And they're being pushed back out of there as well since last year.

        But hey, don't let the reality of what is actually going on there keep you from pushing that simplistic narrative.

        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Wed Jun 22, 2011 at 11:48:02 AM PDT

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