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  •  Great thing (5+ / 0-)

    Netanyahu has been boxed in ... lots of strings being pulled behind the scenes.

    At this point in time, with possible push for a UN resolution backing Palestinian state where Hamas has power, he has no choice.

    I believe he wants to get a peace deal, but must "act" defiant in order to appease Israeli RW, and also to make it appear that he is resisting, i.e., "If it's good for Israel, it must be bad for Palestinians.

    Hard to tell what is theater for the public, and what is real. But this news if very good.

    BTW, my opinion is only my opinion - I'm always an optimist, which can be delusionary.

    •  No, this is as valuable opinion as any (5+ / 0-)

      and one that I agree with you on. I think weasel above is also right in his assessment of the Israelis trying to play "Beat the Clock".

      DK4: For those times when pissing in the hummus isn't enough

      by volleyboy1 on Wed Jun 22, 2011 at 02:25:27 PM PDT

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    •  Recent haaretz article (5+ / 0-)
      I believe he wants to get a peace deal, but must "act" defiant in order to appease Israeli RW, and also to make it appear that he is resisting, i.e., "If it's good for Israel, it must be bad for Palestinians.

      Very possible.  The other possibility, of course, is that he's moving towards a self declared disengagement and towards Israel attempting to declare final borders.  I can't quite tell from this article which one he's going for: haaretz article.

      •  Well that was my take on it as well (6+ / 0-)

        He laid out what he wanted but, the right is really pushing for annexation of the West Bank. I am not sure what the heck is going on. One thing is that the Israelis, in arguing against the declaration in September were making the case against unilateral action and saying "Look what happened in Gaza". If this were a move to unilaterally declare borders how ironic would that be???

        But it could be, particularly if the Palestinians go ahead with the September vote.

        Interesting months ahead.

        DK4: For those times when pissing in the hummus isn't enough

        by volleyboy1 on Wed Jun 22, 2011 at 03:40:23 PM PDT

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        •  I don't sense much enthusiasm (0+ / 0-)

          on the part of the PA concerning the September vote. It seems to me to be mostly an attempt to placate the Palestinian people for the lack of progress all these years. Even a small amount of progress should short-circuit it particularly given the zero chance of it passing. We need more of this and quickly. And by "this" I  mean abide by already decided Israeli Supreme Court rulings such as the illegality of the Beit Yonaton settlement in Silwan whose security forces murdered a Palestinian teenager the Friday before Nakba.

    •  Don't forget internal Israeli Politics (2+ / 0-)
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      Labor has been hammering Likud given the growing effectiveness of the boycotts, particularly in Europe. Perhaps the pressure is getting through to make some progress.

      Note this in the June 3 Haeretz:

      "Listen, Bibi," MK Benjamin Ben-Eliezer (Labor ) growled, "I congratulate you on your hug from Congress, but it will not take us off the path to confrontation. Our situation in Europe is very bad. President Obama said everything we wanted him to say. Now you have to announce that Israel will vote for a Palestinian state in the UN this September ... As a former industry and trade minister, I tell you: The markets are closing. We will suffer a devastating economic blow."

          I asked Ben-Eliezer how Netanyahu, who likes him, reacted to his tough talk. "He nodded his head," Ben-Eliezer said.

      •  Countering Republican Critique of the President (1+ / 0-)
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        Note the following jewel in my quote above:

        President Obama said everything we wanted him to say.

        To characterize the President as anything other than a staunch ally of Israel is to misread all the facts. Some people might consider that a bad thing but a vast majority of Americans consider that a good thing.

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