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  •  Let's just say, I can appreciate skepticism... (1+ / 0-)
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    david mizner

    about an operation that involved a bunch of western nations using military force against a Middle Eastern nation, that has oil, in the hopes of a positive political outcome.  Skepticism is a good thing.  Skepticism is a demand for more solid information before drawing a firm conclusion.

    But you must admit, there is a lot going on here that doesn't fit the script we both know so well.

    A UN authorization that sets meaningful limits on what we can do?  The Arab League requesting the action and endorsing the use of military force by the west?  Action against an oil dictator that was selling us oil and signing fat contracts with our drilling companies and playing genial host to John McCain?  A genuine, honest-to-God, not astroturf popular uprising that preceded, by months, even the idea of western intervention?  A formal commitment not to put in ground troops?

    You must admit, this isn't what it usually looks like when we decide to "kick their ass and steal their gas."

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Thu Jun 23, 2011 at 03:04:32 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, different in some ways (1+ / 0-)
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      Meteor Blades

      Which is why for me, it wasn't a no fucking way kind of deal. I had to weigh both sides. It mattered that humanitarian concerns were part of the motivation, that Samnatha Power (not, say, Dick Cheney) was in the White House pushing this, and that some people I normally agree with (Meteor Blades, here, for example) supported it, and that most importantly, there was a call from the rebels for a no-fly zone.

      Different enough, though, to overcome the difficulty of getting from here to there? Different enough to negate the imperialist tendencies that, even if not there at the outset, will emerge as the western countries consider their strategic interests? My feeling is no, but time will tell.

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