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  •  Even if the inventors are immigrants (4+ / 0-)

    which we don't know, but if they are, they still had to come to America to invent this battery technology at an American university.

    I never understood the opposition to foreign students.  Seems to me we should be honored that students from all over the world want to study at our universities.  And maybe a little ashamed that American students aren't as interested in science and engineering, because they're either too lazy or too interested in money.

    "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

    by Subterranean on Thu Jun 23, 2011 at 06:06:11 AM PDT

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    •  Go to any meeting of an academic medical (5+ / 0-)

      society in the U.S., societies with names that often include the word "American", and you will hear presentations by young researchers who overwhelmingly have foreign accents. It's wonderful that the research is being done, and it's equally wonderful that bright, motivated young people from all over the world are still willing to come here to train and do the research. But it's highly depressing to see how few Americans are doing this stuff, most of whom are likely actively engaged in doing research in the latest schemes to transfer money uphill.

      "But there is so much more to do." - Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2008

      by flitedocnm on Thu Jun 23, 2011 at 07:16:02 AM PDT

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      •  I was under the impression (2+ / 0-)
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        that it doesn't really matter if your from here or not, people come here to kick ass because other countries don't have the same kinds of opportunities that exist here, much as there are efforts to change that.

        We already have death panels. They're called insurance companies.

        by aztecraingod on Thu Jun 23, 2011 at 11:05:18 AM PDT

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      •  careers. (0+ / 0-)

        There aren't many academic ones to be had, and the pharmaceutical industry has spent the last ten years adjusting for lowered profits and empty product pipelines by firing scientists, closing research campuses, and outsourcing.

        And unlike construction, legal, and other jobs that were hit by the recession, the pharmaceutical industry has undergone fundamental changes: those jobs aren't coming back.

        •  I'm not talking about only (0+ / 0-)

          research based on drug studies. I'm talking about all kinds of basic science research, and clinical research, that is not necessarily linked to pharmaceuticals at all. The research is still being done. It's just not being done by many Americans.

          As to drug money: I've long believed that far too much research is based more on marketing than on real science. Way too much is drug company financed. It's nothing short of criminal that governmental funding is not significantly greater. And this will likely get slashed further by Republican shock therapy as part of the extortion demands to increase the debt ceiling.

          "But there is so much more to do." - Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2008

          by flitedocnm on Thu Jun 23, 2011 at 04:14:16 PM PDT

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    •  They are. (0+ / 0-)
      Even if the inventors are immigrants which we don't know, but if they are, they still had to come to America to invent this battery technology at an American university.

      OK, but if they hadn't they might have invented it elsewhere, which was kind of the point of my comment above.

      Do you think only the US invents great stuff?

      Two of the traditional strengths of the US has been it's relatively open immigration policy and good universities, whcih have tended to have a syergistic effect in attracting a lot of smart students from outside that eventially maintain or even compound the the power of the system.

      And this case is a perfect example. One of the projet leaders, Yet-Ming Chiang, was originally a student who imigrated from Taiwan to attend MIT and eventually became a leading Professor there as well as a founder of American Superconductor M24 and A123 Systems, some great tech companies.

      Of the inventors, one is Rumanian and the other Chinese.

      Great minds and great ideas come from everywhere.

      Great opportunitities do not, which I think may be hat you are trying to say, but the best way for the US to decline as a tech incubator would be to go all nationalistc and proud and neglect the goose that laid the golden egg.

      Some of the anti-imigration crap spewed on the Left these days could have exactly that effect.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sat Jun 25, 2011 at 12:40:52 AM PDT

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