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  •  Republicans are determined to tank the economy. (22+ / 0-)

    Obama needs to let the American people know what is going on in terms that the majority can understand especially who is to blame for the deficit and what is at stake, gutting of Social programs in return for tax cuts to the wealthy so they can continue shopping at Tiffanys.

    "A witty saying proves nothing.." Voltaire

    by irate on Fri Jun 24, 2011 at 07:37:00 AM PDT

    •  that's why it was planned imo (2+ / 0-)
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      not the specifics; it's seldom the specifics for zealots. But there was never any real intention to allow the patrons to feel any discomfort, therefore there was never really any intention to increase revenues, therefore there was never any intention to negotiate. This was a stall tactic to take us closer to zero hour in a (likely wildly successful) ploy to make dems cave.
      Like all the other "negotiations" with these cretins since 1/20/09.

      Look at the Ryan budget; it was touted as wonderful, then the people got wind of it, and it stank.  So did the repubs run from it, as was reported here and throughout the press? not really; they just moved their ideological holy grail into these fake negotiations.
      The end result? Spoiler alert: Dems will panic and largely sign on to a massive dismemberment of Medicare, with no (or possibly token) tax hikes (to be enacted in the distant future i.e. never) thus the assholes get their holy grail and get to blame it on democrats.
      When the cries of "nobody saw this coming" begin, reread this comment.

      Obama's like Bush? No. He's more like Cheney. They both shoot people in the face.

      by kamarvt on Fri Jun 24, 2011 at 07:49:04 AM PDT

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      •  Dems will not simply panic. (0+ / 0-)

        There are too many bazillionaire dems, and dems in bed with big business, and they don't want to raise their own taxes, or cut off their own revenue stream, any more than republicans do.  

        Party label isn't the problem.  Just follow the money.

        Your real friends are the people who TELL you when you've got spinach in your teeth.

        by nwreader on Fri Jun 24, 2011 at 08:42:39 AM PDT

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    •  Right, irate. Have you seen the ad Republicans (5+ / 0-)
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      eXtina, terabthia2, Wendys Wink, Matt Z, irate

      have been running on television? I can't count the times I've seen it, and I get irate every single time. It starts out: Washington has been lying to you, Medicare is going bankrupt. And, continues (now paraphrasing): Only we Republicans are trying to save Medicare for you seniors and your children. Paul Ryan is so courageous to be doing this even though so many are trying to stop him. Only Republicans care about you.

      Ack!  Where is our message? Why do we let crap like this go unchallenged?

      Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal

      by RJDixon74135 on Fri Jun 24, 2011 at 07:53:23 AM PDT

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    •  Voters in Florida understand. (4+ / 0-)
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      semiot, Timothy J, Jerry056, irate

      Our Dem Congress and President Obama might as well start preaching it on a daily basis to further the hole that the GOP have dug themselves into all by themselves.

      Look at this new PPP poll of what Gov. Scott is doing to further ruin a chance for any GOP presidential candidate from winning Florida:  http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...

      Look at those Independent voter numbers favoring President Obama and remember that they represent 1/3 of our Florida voters that can't vote in our closed primaries.  Folks are pissed down here from both sides of the aisle with all of the cuts to public service, education etc. and the proposed Medicare cuts to feed the GOP corporate sponsors.

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