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  •  only 70 years after Brown v. Board of Ed (2+ / 0-)
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    can we apply the concept "In manners of public accomodation, seperate but equal is not equal" to that very thing that Republicans say shoudl be the centerpiece of any two people's lives.

    Imagine - they say that the most sacred thing a person can do is enter into a lifetime, legally recognized, loving relationship

    they say that the state should have as little involvement that might interrupt individual freedom or liberty

    ...and until tonight, in the state of New York

    they still wanted to tell us that the state can tell you who you can love and what that love will look like

    if there is a god, he's got some rather duplicitous followers

    ...NOTE that churches still have an exemption

    SO

    A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO RELY ON THE STATE TO PROTECT THEIR FREEDOM TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES

    USED THAT FREEDOM AS MUCH AS THEY COULD TO DENY THE SAME FREEDOM TO OTHERS (BASED ONLY ON THE THING THEY WERE GIVEN FREEDOM TO HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE)

    ...AND ARE STILL AT THIS MOMENT GIVEN AN EXEMPTION TO TOLERATING THE OTHERS FREEOM.

    Can anyone imagine what New York would look like if Gays said they wanted an exemption that allowed them to ignore the insitutions of churches and their traditions?

    Everytime I hear someone say they are "always" proud of hteir country, I get into discussions like this with myself.

    The dichotomy and cognitive dissonance that is embodied by much of the population of this country is shameful,

    and the people who ignore it shameless

    Tonight, we - the US of God Bless A - is one step closer to having the intellectual integrity we ought to have had a century ago.

    As a heterosexual man, I say hooray.

    Seriously - watching them read the vote, the hair on my arms was not just standing on end - it was waving.

    Good on all of us.

    George Orwell is banging on the lid of his coffin and screaming, "1984 was a cautionary tale, you dolts, not a motivational speech!"

    by snafubar on Fri Jun 24, 2011 at 07:50:49 PM PDT

    •  More like 44 years after Loving vs. Virginia (4+ / 0-)

      After the Supreme Court issued a landmark ruling against miscegenation laws prohibiting people of different races from marrying each other, another chapter for human rights was written today in New York as they passed the same-sex marriage bill.

      I find it ironic that the event which triggered the move to legalize same-sex marriages was the Supreme Court decision was Lawrence vs. Texas (2003), which basically only guaranteed that the state couldn't barge into a person's private bedroom and arrest and imprison them for committing a consensual sexual act.  At the time, most gay people were just looking for the court to protect their privacy rights.  But immediately after the Supreme Court decision, ultra-right wing conservative and religious groups railed against the ruling, saying that this would pave the way for gay couples to get married.  But by stating publicly their opposition to gay marriage before it even became an issue, it allowed more rational people to consider what was so wrong about gay marriage (nothing) and eventually led them to encourage the passing of same-sex marriage statutes.  So I guess in a way we should thank all the homophobic bigots for pushing to have same-sex marriages recognized and legalized.

      •  Marriage equality was already an issue (2+ / 0-)

        by the time Lawrence rolled around. After all, the Goodridge case was finally decided by the MA Supreme Court only a few months after Lawrence and given how slowly the courts work, that particular suit would have been around for several years beforehand. And don't forget that civil unions in Vermont were the result of a lengthy court battle to get marriage equality there, one that culminated three years before Lawrence.

        My main concern is that when we see a victory like this, we not forget all the years of behind-the-scenes work that made it possible, work that was being done at a time when it looked to a casual observer as if nothing was happening.

        "We recommend, as a precautionary measure, that people with respiratory infections should be advised not to blow their vuvuzela in enclosed spaces and where there is a risk of infecting others."

        by ebohlman on Fri Jun 24, 2011 at 10:43:04 PM PDT

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