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  •  I'm afraid you see Clinton (5+ / 0-)

    through rose colored glasses.

    "We should invade the whole world & fix everything. Anything less means we support the terrorists, ne'er-do-wells, incompetents, grifters, drug lords, dead-enders, autocrats, and so on." - mightymouse

    by Sagebrush Bob on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 05:59:57 PM PDT

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    •  Me and 60% of Americans (0+ / 0-)

      He wasn't perfect, but he was very good.  Real Democrats usually support successful Dem presidents.

      "My father always told me that all businessmen were sons of bitches, but I never believed it until now." - JFK during the 1962 Steel Crisis

      by Betty Pinson on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 06:11:18 PM PDT

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      •  Successful at setting the stage (2+ / 0-)
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        NoFortunateSon, Sagebrush Bob

        for the finalization of the bubble economy. Republicans make the goals and Dems rack up the assists.

        Unless you're directly benefiting from the fleecing somehow, all your blind investment in establishment politics has bought you, is a dog-and-pony show.

        by James Kresnik on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 08:00:36 PM PDT

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        •  Disagree (0+ / 0-)

          Clinton didn't create a bubble economy.  Wall Street and banks did.

          "My father always told me that all businessmen were sons of bitches, but I never believed it until now." - JFK during the 1962 Steel Crisis

          by Betty Pinson on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 08:10:39 PM PDT

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          •  With his tender helping hand, of course. (2+ / 0-)
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            NoFortunateSon, Sagebrush Bob

            My Dear, the failure of politics started far before Bush The Younger.

            Unless you're directly benefiting from the fleecing somehow, all your blind investment in establishment politics has bought you, is a dog-and-pony show.

            by James Kresnik on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 08:15:07 PM PDT

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            •  It started with Nixon, actually (0+ / 0-)

              and really picked up speed with Reagan.

              "My father always told me that all businessmen were sons of bitches, but I never believed it until now." - JFK during the 1962 Steel Crisis

              by Betty Pinson on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 08:29:09 PM PDT

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              •  And continued along (0+ / 0-)

                with Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr. and now Obama.

                "We should invade the whole world & fix everything. Anything less means we support the terrorists, ne'er-do-wells, incompetents, grifters, drug lords, dead-enders, autocrats, and so on." - mightymouse

                by Sagebrush Bob on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 08:32:19 PM PDT

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            •  the roots of our economic problems go all the way (0+ / 0-)

              back to the late 70's.  Up until then, national economies were pretty much self-contained and independent--the big national corporations invaded the Third World whenever they could, but for the most part they concentrated on dominating their own internal markets, and foreign trade was not their priority.

              By the 80's, however, national corporations in the US, Japan and Europe began to outgrow their domestic markets, and were increasingly forced to look elsewhere.  That of course brought them into direct conflict with each other, and the result was bloody trade wars during the Reagan years--trade wars which the US lost. The new multinational corporations desperately sought a way to avoid all the bloody trade warfare in the future, and finally in 1996 agreed to a uniform set of international trade rules that everyone would follow, enforced by a neutral party (the WTO), which would give every corporation everywhere equal access to every other market, with nobody having any privileged position.  The corporate version of "democracy". They have thrived under that global system ever since, they have zero interest in giving it up, and they will fight to the death to defend it against any nation's narrow self-interests.

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