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  •  Just because they are not part of the organization (0+ / 0-)

    does not mean that the president's authority over them is any different than the military.  The CIA was authorized by the "National Security Act of 1947."  It grew out of the OSS.  And it conducts paramilitary operations.

    The president's authority over CIA activiities is through his/her CIC authority.  That's just a fact.

    "Now we are engaged in a great civil war testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure."

    by nklein on Mon Jun 27, 2011 at 09:31:39 PM PDT

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    •  Any legal authority for that assertion? (0+ / 0-)
      The president's authority over CIA activiities is through his/her CIC authority.

      The National Security Act of 1947 has nothing to do with the military so the idea that the president is acting through his CiC power in directing the CIA makes no sense.

      •  Really? Nothing to do with the military? (0+ / 0-)

        It only completely restructured Armed forces of the country.

        Title II is titled "The National Military Establishment."  It has sections on Department of the Army, of the Navy, of the Air Force. (Oh yeah, it was this act that created the Air Force as a separate branch of the military).
        Creating the Secretary of Defense.  The National Security Council.  Takes the CIA out of the organized Armed Forces.

        Do you want to revise that statement?

        "Now we are engaged in a great civil war testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure."

        by nklein on Tue Jun 28, 2011 at 07:22:35 PM PDT

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        •  Just to clarify (0+ / 0-)

          Is it your contention that Congress, under its power to declare war, should have direct control of CIA operations as well as those of the military?  

          For example, was the President's use of the CIA and the military to find and kill Bin Laden unconstitutional in your view because Congress has not declared war on Pakistan and therefore the invasion of its sovereign territory was wrong?

          •  No. There is a reason why there is a seperate (0+ / 0-)

            executive branch.  Furthermore, that operation was authorized by the AUMF in 2001.  What I am saying is that Congress does have a role in strategic decisions in foreign policy and the military.  A point you seem to want to refute.

            "Now we are engaged in a great civil war testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure."

            by nklein on Thu Jun 30, 2011 at 03:06:41 PM PDT

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