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    there exist confusions about these questions as well as politically motivated distortions. the hardcore phonics crowd really just want children to obey and the transmission model of learning suits this end just fine. other folks, clustered around our end of the spectrum, tend to think that practice and the learning of self-discipline (intellectual autonomy is probably closer to the mark) are turnoffs to kids and thus bend the stick to far back to just making learning fun. aristotle said, "the roots of education are bitter, but the fruits are sweet." there's something to that.

    i teach science to 6th-12th graders at a disciplinary campus. i'm teaching kids who are what i call "the roughies and toughies, the cussers and fussers." they're not bad kids really, quite intelligent in many respects, but totally turned off to teachers, school and learning. they have very good reasons for that, i understand their reasons, and i try and coax them back onto the path of becoming critical thinkers and doers and lifelong learners. but they have to make the effort. i see their position vis-a-vis the institution of school as parallel to that of many very well educated adults in our society and their relationship to politicals, i.e. turned off, cynical, disengaged, fatalistic, pessimistic, helpless, angry.

    i kinda disagree with your diary, but i'm gonna rec it anyhow, for the sake of discussion. also, my training is in mathematics and the sciences, but i'm a huge fan of Terry Eagleton's brand of litcrit. he's one of my intellectual fathers, along with Chomsky. i highly recommend his wonderful "Why Marx Was Right" which was just published. peace

    "A union is a way of getting things done together that you can't get done alone." Utah Phillips

    by poemworld on Fri Jul 01, 2011 at 12:01:04 PM PDT

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