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  •  Except I don't say it, because it isn't equally (2+ / 0-)
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    fizziks, annetteboardman

    true. Cigarette smoke is obnoxious in a special way because it is blown at face level close to other people. And many smokers still believe that it is acceptable to subject others to their toxic habit.  

    Your freedom stops when it assaults me with a headache, cough, and stuffy nose.

    Ok, so I read the polls.

    by andgarden on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 09:20:26 PM PDT

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    •  It's Not Unique..... (4+ / 0-)

      All kinds of people have severe allergies to food and perfumes, yet we're not enacting laws censuring and criminalizing people who consume those products in public.  You're looking for a loophole to justify singling out one lifestyle choice that you believe "smells yucky", and doing so entirely out of self-interest while not respecting a consistent application of law.  But no such a loophole exists no matter what kind of mental gymnastics you perform attempting to find one.

      •  For you, cigarette smoke = perfume (1+ / 0-)
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        QED.

        Ok, so I read the polls.

        by andgarden on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 09:30:51 PM PDT

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        •  Are You Denying There Are People..... (3+ / 0-)
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          ....who are allergic to perfume?  And even as someone who is not allergic to perfume, I think it "smells icky"...so shouldn't government intervene with laws taking away the perfume-wearers' freedom so that my nose is never offended?  That's the endgame that will be America if we continue to appease the prima donnas stomping their little feet about cigarette smoke even in the outdoors.

        •  the other day i was downwind of someone... (0+ / 0-)

          ... who was wearing something that nearly made me throw up.

          Good God!, how they can call that stuff "perfume" is beyond me, it ought to be called "chemical weaponry."

          So yeah, I want "perfume" taxed at 500% just like cigarettes, and I want to see a government-appointed Bureau of Olfactory Aesthetics deciding which ones to impose the huge tax on, so I don't have to smell the damn stuff in public.  

          And I don't care if we lose another 5% of the voters, I'd rather have Republicans in control of all three branches of government, than have to smell something nasty on the street!  In fact Republicans would be downright welcome if they would just get on the bandwagon about banning cigarettes, refried beans, pinto beans in general, stinky perfumes, and people who refuse to wear deodorants and antiperspirants regardless of whatever chemicals are in 'em.

          Really now!   If we're going to have a world with 9 billion people in it, we can't just allow people to smell however they want to smell, we have to start compromising so we only smell the way others want us to smell.  Freedom to smell however you like is a thing of the past!  

    •  refried beans are obnoxious in a special way.... (0+ / 0-)

      .... because their stinky farts are blown at the face level of children!

      Just think of the children!

      And when the children get a face full of that stench and then puke all over their clothes, it's a huge headache for their parents to have to take them home, clean them up, change their clothes, and get the pukey clothes into the laundry before the stuff hardens!

      Your freedom to eat refried beans stops when you fart in children's faces on the sidewalk, or anywhere near me in an elevator or on public transport.  

      At least with smokers you can see who's holding the cigarette!  But some selfish refried-bean-eater farting up the place can't be detected unless they're really noisy about it.  Otherwise all you can do is say "Who's the bioterrorist?!" and hope to embarrass them into saying they're sorry.  Then you can lecture them about the eeeevils of eating beans when they're going to be out in public.   And then in time you can raise a tax on them.  Serves them right!

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