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  •  What about the Democrats' destructive agenda? (1+ / 0-)
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    So, for example, NJ just screwed over teachers as did MA and IL---all controlled by Democrats.

    It isn't enough to elect Dems---they have to be independent of corporate backing.   They need to be able to legislate without getting their talking points,  hell, their whole agenda from a Bill Gates lobbyist.

    Check out how Democrats are wrecking schools and destroying teaching careers here:

    "It turns out, by the way, that oil rigs today generally don't cause spills. They are technologically very advanced." 4-2-10 Obama's George Bush moment

    by neaguy on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 10:23:37 AM PDT

    •  Chris Christie is a dem? (3+ / 0-)
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      vets74, foucaultspendulum, Matt Z

      NJ politics sucks in general but he's the one setting the agenda there.

      I agree that it's important to elect better Dems, but look at the House in 2010. That's a cautionary story of what happens when "bad dems" are replaced by bats*** insane republicans.

      So lets work to elect more Dems wherever possible, and work to elect better Dems over worse Dems when we can, but lets understand that bad Dems are infinitely better than Repubs.

      When we stop putting leaders from the past up on pedestals and ignoring their flaws, we can start seeing our present leaders for what they really are.

      by PhillyJeff on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 11:06:00 AM PDT

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      •  Not if you take a long view (2+ / 0-)
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        mftalbot, Tommy Allen

        We elected a lot of DINOs over the past 10+ years and what did it get us?  Only a handy excuse for not instituting the Dem agenda.  DINOs (d/b/a blue dogs) only hurt the party as recent history tells us.  To continue on the same path with the unconvincing line that anyone with a D after their name is good for us is to merely let history repeat itself.  We need to only elect Dems who believe in the party's principles and to turn down these republicans who moved to the party only because theirs went bonkers.  They are not Dems- see, eg, Sebelius, Gillibrand, Giffords, Specter, and the list goes on.  

        •  RNC talking point ??? (0+ / 0-)

          Angry White Males + Crooks + Personality Disorder psychos + KKKwannabes + "Unborn Child" church folk =EQ= The Republicans

          by vets74 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 12:58:46 PM PDT

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          •  You'll have to be more specific (1+ / 0-)
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            Tommy Allen

            your comment as it stands is meaningless.  Especially since I advocate an adherence to core Democratic principles.  I would argue that it is the faction within the party that is so willing to embrace wayward republicans as Dem officials that promote the RNC.  But since you offer no substance- why bother with the comment then? Unless you only intend to throw mud- which is not going to make us FDR Democrats go away.  

        •  orestes, we can support a primary challenge to (0+ / 0-)

          any Dem who does not support the values of the majority of Americans.  I will not reward any Repuplican by not voting.

          Giffords may not be in the running next time around, although I hope that is not the case.  I'm not in her district.  It is my hope those that are have an alternative, progressive candidate.  Trust me, Arizona teapublicans are a breed unto themselves, anything would be better.

          •  I never advocated not voting (0+ / 0-)

            because I believe it is an important civic responsibility to vote.  You seem to have misunderstood my comment.  I was responding to the position that any D is good for us.  I do not believe that to be the case, as recent history demonstrates.    

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