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  •  Did you pull that right off the Kerry website? (2.00)
    5. Organization, Organization, Organization: I'm astounded by the frequent claims that Kerry hasn't got organizational parity with Dean or Gephardt. I think he's got the same amount of muscle, and more brains, to his Iowa organization.

    You demonstrated that he has brains behind his operation, I still don't buy that he has the numbers to put it all to use.  Gephardt has all those unions, Dean has unions (less, but larger) and a massive national grassroots movement.  Kerry's never been able to match that.

    6. Money: Sophisticated caucus voters understand that money is a factor. There are serious doubts that Edwards or Gephardt can, even off an Iowa win, raise the money to compete come Super Tuesday in California and New York. There are reasonable doubts that Clark can do that without an outright victory in NH. Everybody knows that Kerry has the money to stay. And half of America likes that it comes from a strong woman.

    Is this the same man that took out a second mortgage on his house and lent $6M+ to his own campaign?  You're spinning like a top when you say that Kerry has the money to stay in for the long haul -- esp when you claim more so than Dean or Clark.  Kerry is relying on his personal fortune to get him through Jan 27, then hoping that early wins will attract the money he needs to make it through the rest of the primary.

    7. Bush Hate Matures: Okay, we all agree now that we hate Bush. One of my favorite quotes: "God put hatred in men's hearts for good reason: to ensure justice." Thomas Paine said that. At some point that kind of "healthy hate" matures into the hard work of unseating the Court Appointed President. Kerry's support comes from those people.

    The mere fact that you would rely on the whole "Dean campaign fueled by hate" meme is disgusting and blows through your credibility.  Folks in IA, NH know better than that.  So do folks who have looked at Dean beyond the Lehane/GOP talking points.

    All the major campaigns, if honest, will tell you their internals say the same thing.

    Bullshit.

    •  Friendly Rebuttal (4.00)
      John writes:

      You demonstrated that he has brains behind his operation, I still don't buy that he has the numbers to put it all to use.  Gephardt has all those unions, Dean has unions (less, but larger) and a massive national grassroots movement.  Kerry's never been able to match that.

      I reply:

      Believe it or not, I see your resistance to my thesis as an inadvertent proof of it. Didn't I just say that Kerry has lulled the competitor's to sleep, to a state of underestimating his organization? I forgot to mention the firefighters unions, I think you underestimate the vets, and I think you very much underestimate the Democratic activists who historically do much more than fifty percent of the work in campaigns: women.

      But, hey, stay asleep, keep underestimating, if you like... That's what the strategy intended!

      John writes:

      Is this the same man that took out a second mortgage on his house and lent $6M+ to his own campaign?  You're spinning like a top when you say that Kerry has the money to stay in for the long haul...

      I reply:

      By my math, Kerry has $20 million in properties he can use to back loans. That leaves, potentially, about $13 million more of borrowing power. Are you saying that's not enough? He also built, in the beginning of the race, a very large donor base, exceeding all others in the first quarters, which, it being a new year, they can all max out again if the spirit returns. He will turn to them again within hours after he beats expectations in Iowa and New Hampshire. He is also the only other Dem than Dean who can go outside the federal limits.

      None of this is on the Kerry website, by the way. They're trying to lull y'all to sleep.

      John writes:

      The mere fact that you would rely on the whole "Dean campaign fueled by hate" meme is disgusting and blows through your credibility.

      And follows up with:

      Bullshit.

      I conclude:

      Yes, there are some "anger management issues" at play as the January Surprise gains traction. Don't shoot the messengers of inconvenient information to previously calcified CW of the contest. Keep your eyes on the prize: Beating Bush... Dean, Kerry, Edwards, none of these guys are inexperienced at winning general elections... I'll be thrilled with either of 'em... But you don't discredit the "Democratic rage" meme by displacing your rage at bearers of inconvenient information.

      "My truth plus your truth makes a bigger truth" - Mario Menéndez Rodríguez

      by Al Giordano on Fri Jan 16, 2004 at 02:22:24 PM PST

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      •  Wrong (none)
        Are you saying that's not enough? He also built, in the beginning of the race, a very large donor base, exceeding all others in the first quarters, which, it being a new year, they can all max out again if the spirit returns. He will turn to them again within hours after he beats expectations in Iowa and New Hampshire. He is also the only other Dem than Dean who can go outside the federal limits.

        This is false.  FEC regulations clearly state that contributions may not exceed $2,000 per election cycle.

        The Presidential Primary Cycle is defined as the period of time between the date a candidate files for FEC committee recognition, until the day the Primary season ends.   The primary season ends at the Democratic National Convention is Boston, MA in late July of 2004.

        Those donors who have maxed out to any campaign, can give no more money to that campaign if or when they are choosen as the nominee.

        Alex M

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