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  •  The vouchers are seconday threat to privatization (15+ / 0-)

    ...IMO. There's nothing stopping people from using private schools today. I happen to have academically good schools in my district and I still paid for private Christian progressive elementary education for my  high risk kids. But I pay taxes for public schools.  Privatization of public schools is a terrible idea perpetrated by a greedy effort to profit from the ready supply of school children. It's got nothing to do with national interest.

    I oppose vouchers too but if they were restricted to public schools at least they'd push back on administrative problems. But the prominence of public education has to be a core value in all of our politicians, state and federal, and be a core mission in and of itself regardless of business priorities.

    Modernizing and reengineering public education is a great endeavor as long as the goal is to expand access to good schools to all children. But this notion of the preeminence of business needs as the driver of a cost efficient education program is not our history and ignores the primary goal that everyone deserves a modern core education - reading, writing, history, math, science, and indeed, socialization.

    Eliminate the Bush tax cuts Eliminate Afghan and Iraq wars Do these things first before considering any cuts

    by kck on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 01:14:36 PM PDT

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    •  I've been talking about this for decades, that (2+ / 0-)
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      education is not simply job training. Education in and of itself is valuable for building critical thinking, creativity and responsible citizenship.

      Since before I went to college in 1971, college educations have been pushed as primarily a way to get a better job. But for me, education has always been about becoming a better person. The fact that it enables me to find better work is a bonus; and I would have happily spent the decade I did (three degrees) getting educated simply to be the better person I have become.

      I think we err massively in not selling education this way, because it actually sets it up to be measured in "effective" and "efficient" business terms, which really don't apply to a task such education.

      I now work in IT (my degrees were history, philosophy and theology), and I learned it on my own because my education equipped me to do so . I've known a lot of people who only went to technical school so they could get a job; they're great at producing widgets. But creative thinking and problem solving? Continuous learning? Not so much.

      It's the difference between a humanities education and job training IMHO.

      •  Exactly (2+ / 0-)
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        VigilantLiberal, evergreen2

        Here's a real life example: one of my managers was having difficulty hiring an analyst for a very technical clinical IT project. I suggested a particularly insightful, charming senior RN I met at a meeting once who turned out to be delighted for the chance but explained her reservations since she had a nursing degree which didn't match the requirements in the job description. We sent her to an analysis class focused on the standard deliverables and she was a natural. She also doubled her salary.

        Eliminate the Bush tax cuts Eliminate Afghan and Iraq wars Do these things first before considering any cuts

        by kck on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 11:27:09 AM PDT

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