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  •  As they say in Missouri... (0+ / 0-)

    ...show me!

    There was a hydrogen filling station here in Chicago, on the southwest corner of Damen and Fullerton. It was gone in 2 years, and the corner is empty.

    And there's more infrastructure for anhydrous ammonia than there is for hydrogen.

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Tue Jul 12, 2011 at 12:51:20 PM PDT

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    •  stations opening (1+ / 0-)
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      stations just opened in NY (Hempstead), California (has 20), Delaware (has two fuel cell buses), Connecticut (has 4 fuel cell buses and 10 Toyota vehicles), South Carolina (for fuel cell forklifts at Kimberly-Clark), and are coming soon to Hawaii (25 by 2015).

      The stations will open first where the vehicles are.  Germany announced plans for 1,000 stations and Daimler plans on placing their Mercedes F-CELL on the road there because of it.

      Companies such as Linde and Air Products are putting in stations as well as dispensers at facilities with fuel cell forklifts.  Other companies such as Shell (just opened one in Berlin), Praxair and Chevron are as well.  

      For comprehensive charts of all hydrogen fueling stations both in the U.S. and worldwide, check out: http://www.fuelcells.org/... and
      http://www.fuelcells.org/....

      Also, http://www.cafcp.org/... has all of California's.

      •  That's all fine and good... (0+ / 0-)

        ...but I repeat: Chicago had a hydrogen filling station, and it lasted 2 years. Its been gone for several years since then, and I see no hydrogen stations or fuel-cell vehicles in my neighborhood.

        Let me frame it another way: in 2001 I had to replace my 1991 Ford Festiva. At the time I worked for the City of Chicago as a traffic engineer, and was reimbursed for using my personal vehicle for field work. I intended to buy a Honda Insight 2-seater hybrid, as it would have been perfect for this, but Honda wasn't really pushing sales of the Insight in my area. There was a 6-month waiting list to buy one, and my poor old Festiva wasn't going to continue that much longer. I ended up buying a 2001 Ford Focus ZX3 instead, which I still own and drive.

        When I see hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles (especially PHEV ones) in Illinois in serious quantities, then I will believe it.

        Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

        by JeffW on Tue Jul 12, 2011 at 01:25:19 PM PDT

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        •  demonstration (0+ / 0-)

          the station in Chicago was for a demonstration.  You aren't going to see stations or vehicles for a few years and probably not in Illinois until several years after that.  The first vehicles are already on the road in California and several other states and that is where they will be introduced.  There are still more fuel cell vehicles on the road right now than battery-electric or plug-in vehicles and we need ALL of them to reach our energy goals.

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