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  •  she's a legacy hire (2+ / 0-)
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    It's a waste of a blue seat, the opportunity costs of settling for Hahn are enormous. Or, if it gets redder in redistricting, she'll probably lose it again like she lost the seat to the gop under the old maps.

    She's just worthless, even in LA where her last name meant something she was able to get very little done. And nobody in DC cares about the Hahn family.

    She'll be a backbencher with a pulse, but little more. The opportunity costs of not having an effective member in that seat are enormous.

    But yeah, good news for City Hall, expect better progressive policy for LA.

    •  Well, with the top two primary system.... (0+ / 0-)

      You may be able to get enough votes for a better Dem to challenge her in the general.  With a choice of two dems, you could improve.


      by LordMike on Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 07:54:34 AM PDT

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      •  actually works the other way (1+ / 0-)
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        You technically can no longer primary a sitting member. You can only run against them. Giving this district's history (of Hahn losing it to the GOP), any campaign against her would be met by loud whines that it was jeopardizing holding the seat, because the candidate would be running against the incumbent not just to be the nominee. And it would be for a full term, where people wouldn't know where or no control of this seat might matter (unlike now, when we know it won't this congress). This combines to make it practically impossible to primary a Democrat in all but the bluest of the blue districts.  Prop 14 killed the ability to primary (disclosure, I worked against the initiative).

        In jungle primaries, the smart move is to hand it over for a cycle. In Washington, unions have donated to GOP candidates to game the outcomes, the dynamics are completely different than under the system most people are familiar with, strategy is totally different.

        As her vote won't matter this congress due to Boehner's large majority, the strategic move would have been a gambit for the special and focusing on having an adequate Dem run against Huey (after he voted for Ryan budget and other such crazy) in 2012, when it could actually matter. There's no reasonable scenario where Dems are better off having Hahn this congress, but there are many scenarios where Dems are worse off having Hahn win this election.

        Unfortunately, the ossified organizations on the left in CA are too slow to realize the changing dynamics due to Prop 14. That combined (corrupt) LA City Hall resulted in a perfect storm, where the Democrat winning was actually the worst outcome for Democrats.

        Won the battle to lose the war, a true pyrrhic victory.

        •  Agree, sort of (0+ / 0-)

          Totally agree that Hahn is no prize.  Her political career, so far, has produced bupkis.  She's also attached to the Los Angeles city Democrats who all seem practice financial chicanery as a way of life.  Both she and her brother, former mayor James Hahn, live off the reputation of their father, Kenneth Hahn, who was a decent guy.  With Hahn, we probably have a congressperson who will vote like the odious Harman, but without the charm.

          That said, I do not think it would have been a good idea to let a Republican take the seat.  Cf. Senator Scott Brown.

          It would have been much better if Marcy Winograd had not run.  

          •  Hahn not quite the odious Harman (0+ / 0-)

            Think what you will of my spouse, Marcy Winograd, and ignore if you wish the signs that Bowen was not necessarily the pure progressive she sometimes claimed to be, but Hahn is not a Harman clone.  She will not be a "go along get along" Dem if appointed to intel or war-related committees, whereas Harman was more than happy to tolerate and support secret Bush wiretapping and the Bush wars.  She will not be a Blue Dog, and she has agreed to join the Out of Afghanistan and Progressive Caucuses, which were anathema to Jane.

            "The true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love."

            by Budlawman on Sat Jul 16, 2011 at 05:22:28 PM PDT

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