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  •  If you won't read past headlines, I can't help you (1+ / 0-)
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    Alumbrados

    I have made it clear that there is a significant difference between the proposals. Just not an important one.

    •  No you made clear (2+ / 0-)
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      hooper, Tortmaster

      that's what you think, unless you're claiming your beliefs define reality, in which case I would urge you to spend your time believing more productive and equally incorrect things like Gay marriage being legal everywhere on earth.

      Aren't they amazing? They could go on forever, aimlessly talking about pointless subjects. Even I'm beginning to admire them for it. -- Nagisa, A Lollipop Or A Bullet

      by Dom9000 on Thu Jul 14, 2011 at 05:33:24 PM PDT

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      •  Ok, beliefs... (1+ / 0-)
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        COBALT1928

        My beliefs are based on an analysis by one of the sharpest tax/budget think tanks in Washington. One that many congressional Democrats rely on.

        And your beliefs are based on what, exactly?

        •  ... the same facts as yours? (1+ / 0-)
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          Tortmaster

          All people have the same pool of facts to work with, how they interpret them if they acknowledge them at all is up to them. Some people's encounters with these facts makes them Republicans, some make them Democrats, some are liberal, some are conservative, on this website we are all liberals, far leftists, we are both observing the same President some people are pleased with the progress we are making toward LGBTQE equality, ending the wars, ect., some are not.

          I personally believe a lot of this rift arises between people who have no long term memories and minimal grasp of American history and anthropology and sociology, and those who do. You obviously believe your opponents are equally deluded, thus is human nature. To paraphrase somebody, "we're all crazy, but I have the advantage of knowing I'm crazy".

          Aren't they amazing? They could go on forever, aimlessly talking about pointless subjects. Even I'm beginning to admire them for it. -- Nagisa, A Lollipop Or A Bullet

          by Dom9000 on Thu Jul 14, 2011 at 06:11:17 PM PDT

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          •  Are you a mind-reader, Dom? (1+ / 0-)
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            COBALT1928

            I don't know where you come up with the idea that I think "my opponents" are "deluded." I have responded courteously--because I try not to divide the world into friends or opponents-- to posts that accuse me of all kinds of silly things, including the most self-evidently false accusation of all: that I have claimed that there is no difference between the parties.

            What I have said is that specifically on budget issues, the parties in Washington are getting very close together. The figures cited by CTJ bear that out.

            Not one person who has challenged me on this thread has addressed the CTJ report. That implies to me that they are not drawing from the same pool of facts. The facts presented by CTJ are unpleasant.

            But CTJ is one of the think tanks that most congressional Democrats rely on. This is not the Heritage Foundation, which invents things as it goes. What they are saying is important, and alarming. Whatever one's political leanings, it's an irresponsible proposal. Slightly less irresponsible than the GOP proposal, but irresponsible nevertheless.

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