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  •  Strawmen (1+ / 0-)
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    soros

    This article is a good example. It takes a slogan and decides to run with it literally, so that what is obviously opposition to excessive or unfair taxation turns into simple opposition to taxation, which (surprise!) is shown to be untenable. You don't have to greatly sympathize with the Tea Party people to see this as both clueless and as deliberate provocation.

    For nearly 3 years I've argued here first, that the TP ought to be taken seriously (most writers here were originally falling all over themselves dismissing it as any significant political force) and (horrors!) even sympathetically. Anything that gets this many people that riled up needs careful listening to. One of the best ways to irk people and make them even more determined in their ways is to belittle them.

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      milkbone

      you're of the opinion that despite the ironic fact that the TEA Party, a group rallied about the notion that they're "Taxed Enough Already" is actually satisfied with their tax burden, we should take them seriously?  That their activities can be construed by a reasonable person as "opposition to excessive or unfair taxation" despite the actual facts of the situation, the tax burden being the lowest it's been since Eisenhower occupied the White House?  And I'm to take you seriously, despite the fact that you obviously did not read the diary to which you are replying?

      Cynic, n: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.

      by Fed up Fed on Mon Jul 18, 2011 at 07:35:37 AM PDT

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    •  I actually know people (1+ / 0-)
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      who argue with me that there should be no compulsory taxation and not much if any gov't regulation.  And they do refer to all taxation as "theft".  Rather rabidly.

      These folks are not complaining that there are too many taxes.  They are not complaining that the government is doing the wrong thing with those taxes.  They are complaining because there ARE taxes, period.

      Somehow they feel that people/corporations (ha!)/etc. will voluntarily pay "taxes" (or whatever they would be called if they were voluntary . . . "donations", perhaps?) to the gov't, and will also support the downtrodden through charity.  Even though history shows us that when taxes go down, so do charitable donations.  

      I don't know what the hell the ideal world they envision would look like -- I do know that I sure don't want to live in it.

      Mel

      "Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!"

      by ClickerMel on Mon Jul 18, 2011 at 01:45:27 PM PDT

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