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  •  I suspect that (9+ / 0-)

    they had the most fact based opinions despite the best efforts of NPR rather than because of them.

    I will put NPR on in the car sometimes and do gain information about certain things but I learn little or nothing from their opinion based stuff.

    As for CNN, can't honestly remember the last time that I learned anything their, other than about missing white girls that is.

    A more extreme view than the one I've expressed is that CNN and NPR need Fox to drag them further to the Right so that they don't piss off their Donors, sponsors and advertisers.

    •  CNN (11+ / 0-)

      Stopped watching THEM back when they became the 24 hour OJ channel.

      FREEDOM ISN'T FREE: That's why we pay taxes. Read the PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT Newsletter

      by mole333 on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 10:18:59 AM PDT

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    •  I listen to NPR quite a bit and I (8+ / 0-)

      do think they lean too far right sometimes. However, I've often heard their promos that say they want to lean more towards helping their listeners TO think, not WHAT to think, unlike Fox.

      Their opinion based stuff is less rabid, which is OK with me. Given the facts, I can be rabid enough without their help.

      Out in the west Texas town of El Paso...

      by falina on Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 03:01:43 PM PDT

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      •  I stopped listening to NPR (5+ / 0-)
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        The day of this interview with Donald Rumsfeld:

        Q:  One final question, Mr. Secretary, I remember that you wrote in a memo about having a metric system that would allow you and the entire country to judge whether or not the U.S. is winning the war on terrorism. That was about a year ago.  Today, can you measure whether or not that war is being won?

        SEC. RUMSFELD:  Not with metrics.  We can put on the chart the things that are working well.  And we are unquestionably putting a lot of pressure on the extremists who are conducting these terrorist acts around the world.  We’ve got 90 nations – 80 to 90 nations engaged in the coalition.  They’re sharing intelligence.  They’re putting pressure on bank accounts.  They’re making it harder to move money.  They’re making it harder for those terrorists to recruit people and to retain them.  We’re making it harder for them to communicate with each other, harder for them to move between countries.

        And we have good things happening like they brought down the AQ Khan network that was trading in nuclear materials and technologies.  Libya has come forward and decided to forgo weapons of mass destruction.  So there’s a lot good that’s happening.  There is a lot bad that’s happening, too, and the problem is you can’t quantify that.

        We don’t know how many people are being recruited into these schools that teach people to go out and kill innocent men, women and children and we don’t know how many people are being trained to go out and chop of people’s heads and cut off their hands and blow up innocent men, women and children, as we see in country after country – from Spain to Bali to you name it.

        Now the metrics you end up with, the ways of calculating things, you can – so I say you can do a pretty good job on the positive side.  You can calibrate and calculate the number of events that are occurring in the world that are terrorist acts.  But we don’t now what the intake is and the world doesn’t know the answer to that question.  So it’s a tough thing to do and it’s the balance between all of those that would indicate what net progress is being made.

        Q: You know, the question is especially with all the preparations for the democratic and republican conventions, is America safer, I guess becomes the bottom line?

        SEC. RUMSFELD:  Well, there’s no question but that the America is safer today than it was on September 11th. ...

        Note, rather than following up with a question of how, if they weren't using any actual measures, they could claim that the war was making any kind of progress, Juan Williams instead moved on to the "Is America Safer" softball talking-point question-of-the-day.

        At that moment, I knew, without a doubt that NPR had been taken over by the wingers. A couple of years later, the stories re: Kenneth Tomlinson and his purge confirmed my observation.

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