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  •  Seriously?! (6+ / 0-)

    Good grief. I thought people were smarter than to believe this bull.

    I'm a witness to the moon and stars above/ I'm aware of the crimson sky/ I'm a witness to the crumbling walls as well/ But I'm not your alibi!

    by lastxwriter on Mon Jul 18, 2011 at 10:50:36 AM PDT

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    •  one will never get rich overestimating (7+ / 0-)

      the intelligence of a free republic commenter.  They're positively dim.  Anyone who actually sends money to jim robinson should be in serious contention for a Darwin award.  

      A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

      by dougymi on Mon Jul 18, 2011 at 11:09:46 AM PDT

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    •  They believe (1+ / 0-)
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      what they want to believe.

      I am still learning, but the teachers often suck.

      by trumpeter on Mon Jul 18, 2011 at 02:06:15 PM PDT

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      •  They have a very strict catechism (4+ / 0-)

        There are things one MUST believe and things one must NEVER admit or say. The orthodoxy is very demanding.

        I'm been a stealth poster there for 10 years. I mainly contradict posters with facts, and with arguments about their logical or rhetorical fallacies. I stay off of the posts that involve Palin - what's the point? I am often accused of being a "lib" for using the wrong sources for information (the New York Times, the CBO) or the wrong arguments - such as that climate change is occurring. And for God's sake, don't ever question Christianity or the idea that the country was founded as a Christian nation!

        They aren't stupid; I've met far more engineers there than I've seen posting here. Their "Graves, Gods and Glyphs" ping list is an excellent way to hook up with newly-published articles in archaeology and anthropology. (Just don't read the comments, where you will find people contorting themselves to make non-Western cultures look idiotic, and everything prove that the Bible is true.)  but they are strict ideologues. There are certain ideas that can never be entertained or examined, since they are in conflict with the ideology they espouse.

        That is why O'Keefe and Breitbart are believed, actually revered. These two guys make money by providing "evidence" that fits into the belief system they already have. When you don't allow yourself to read or watch anything that isn't Fox, Rush or Newsmax  because it's "liberal bias," you might just fall for their con.

        Why do I go to FR? I joined back before the Iraq War, to argue against entering. It became immediately obvious that a liberal poster would immediately be "zotted." So I stopped making "liberal" sounding arguments, and found I could alter opinions just using their approved news sources and sheer logic.

        What I found is that Freepers are scared, irrationally so, because they have been encouraged to be.  They have most of the same concerns that we do about where the nation is headed, but they have absolutely no solutions besides "Originalism," getting "Liberals" and "liberal policies" out of government, and prayer back in the schools. The problem is that they have been so taught to hate "Liberals," and distrust "Liberal" states, policies, and information sites, that they will not even consider evidence from the other side. They hate us and think that we are "stupid" "morons" who "don't know what they are talking about" and "whose policies are destroying our nation!" Sound familiar?

        There are plenty of common grounds that we share, and many common concerns. Their solutions are completely reverse from  ours, because they have been indoctrinated to reject them. Part of the solution may be to show that Fox is run by criminals and dismantle it. But we have to realize that there are whole communities, whole states, that have been buying the Conservative argument for decades, and that see the people that don't agree as traitors or "useful idiots." How we are supposed to ever form a nation again is beyond me.

        I have come to the conclusion that the other side is literally playing for keeps. They could easily persuade the True Believers to incarcerate or "re-educate" all the Democrats. They would start a World War and use anti-sedition laws.

        Say what you will about Obama ... he would never do that. Bachmann, Perry or Palin would, because  right now, their supporters would. You have no idea how much they loathe us until you read Free Republic with an anthropologist's eye.

        They say "cut back" - we say "fight back"!

        by Louise on Mon Jul 18, 2011 at 03:07:34 PM PDT

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        •  You have hit the nail squarely upon it's head (1+ / 0-)
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          with your observations on FR. I lasted a mere 2 years before being zotted. I honestly can say I have never met a more fearful group of individuals than the population of FR.

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