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  •  I always find it amazing how (2+ / 0-)
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    it's easy to demonize young people on this site, yet you can get attacked for comments that don't flat out praise baby boomers.


    I wasn't even remotely critical of boomers here, yet I got a typical, snippy, "don't tread on us" reply from one. Why is that?

    The reality is, generations have some culpability, as much as do countries.  Things have changed since the mid-century, and much for the worse, politically and culturally.  We have made great conceptual advances but at great spiritual and civic cost.

    There's much more to our generation.  Serious critiques.  We do not do a damn thing without having our phones with us, 8 out of 10.  Whether it's watching a movie, eating dinner, et cetera: always by our side or in our hands.  We were raised to be as greedy for material goods as possible.  That was taught.  We were bombarded with the most sophisticated corporate propaganda in history.  Nary anyone raised a peep as to what was being done to our brains.

    At a deeper level, we grew up, not only without a labor movement with teeth, but watching people work what many deride as "bullshit" jobs, with already twenty years of income inequality in a diverging American people.  Some made a lot, some made few.  Hours worked and effort were not necessarily correlated.  We grew up expecting the only thing we could do was go to college, unless we were just a few years too old and got caught up in construction and real estate.

    Like Gen X, we expected the job market to be rigged.  Unlike Gen X, we are both neurologically and spiritually, for lack of a better word, too impatient.  After that much TV, video games, and the cell phone during our development years, we were not going to be the patient little creatures expected of us. It's a double-edged sword.  Our generation actually has the numbers to demand things.  And what the labor movement looks like today is usually not one of them.

    That said, my best friend from grade school is a strong member of his trade union.

    A reminder on grammar: even Shakespeare used "more better."

    by Nulwee on Tue Jul 19, 2011 at 08:42:24 AM PDT

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    •  Generational generalizations (0+ / 0-)

      Yes, people who shared similar experiences do share similar worldviews, but we got to be careful.

      First, it wasn't boomers who changed the system, it was >>the elites<< who were in power in the 70s and 80s. And let me stress that: the >>elites<<.

      The boomers are millions of people. And most of them didn't change the system. Most of them lack the power to change the system. If anything, boomers are going to be royally cheated, as a generation, since right now our >>elites<< are changing the social contract and the money that they contributed to their entire lives may not be there for them.

      Boomers are the first generation since the depression who are going to see massive senior poverty. And I am not talking about how they won't be able to travel abroad: I am talking people living in the streets poor. If you pay attention, you will see it is already happening.

      And I am in my 30s before anyone accuses me of defending my own generation.

      •  This is false. (1+ / 0-)
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        Most of them lack the power to change the system.

        You are guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States of America the right to vote after turning 18. To say that Americans, whether they be boomers or otherwise, lack the power to change the system is demonstrably false.

        It is an excuse. The power to change the system resides in the individual deciding to vote. Now, we can debate whether or not our electorate is informed, motivated, or even allowed to leave work to vote. Very valid complaints about our system.

        But to say that Americans lack the power to effect change is to say that we no longer live in a democracy. Which is false. The Constitution still exists.

        I'm a democratic socialist and proud of it. I hate, yes hate, many of the "elites" that you blame for rigging the system. At the same time that does not excuse the MILLIONS of Americans who have willingly allowed themselves to become wholly subservient to "market forces" and given up on their civic duties.

        We have the power. We have had the power since Jim Crow was finally overturned. Are there continued cases of voter intimidation and suppression? Hell yeah there are.

        But I will never blame the elites so long as we have a Constitution that guarantees suffrage for all after becoming a legal adult. They gave up- whether intentionally or through the struggles of raising a family and staying above water- this nation gave up.

        •  And let me go further. (2+ / 0-)
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          I'm sick and tired of hearing people complain about "elites" and what they have done when we have the power.

          This is getting pathetic. For a nation that is supposedly the richest, claims to be well educated, claims to be Christian, claims to be the guiding light and bastion of the West to declare they no longer have the power to effect change in their own representative government... well, I just have one thing to say about a country that can be so hypocritical.

          Exercise your man given rights expounded in the Constitution. Cast aside the fear that is propagated from top to bottom in this nation and have some courage for once this century.

          The actions of this nation so greatly impact the rest of the planet. If the time isn't now, if the person isn't you, then you cannot handle democracy.

          (of course, I have to interject this wonderful little post script. My criticisms are, 99% of the time, aimed at those who can do something about their situation but resign themselves to petty complaints and lethargy. The millions of Americans who, literally, do not have enough time between jobs to even say good night to their children, are not included in my criticisms. Therefore, many of my tirades are aimed at "white middle class America" who still have disposable income and choose to waste it on consumer goods rather than organizing their fellow citizens for a better tomorrow due to their submission to the corporate state and the belief that they cannot effect change)

        •  It only goes so far (0+ / 0-)

          Yes, it is nice to think in those terms, and it is nice to remember that, but the reality is that I lack the same power that the Koch brothers have.

          Koch can call a governor impromptu and get a detail report about whatever situation he wants. I can barely get my representative to listen to me.

          Can I vote him out? Sure, as long as I can find another 20% to 30% voters to overcome his gerrymandered district.

          The U.S. now has, in effect, a money election, through campaign donations, and a vote election.

          To claim that the average boomer has the same power as a Wall Street donor is absurd and incorrect. It is better to have an accurate view of reality and work from there.

          •  Power is a funny thing. (0+ / 0-)

            Power is an abstraction, unless it comes down to physical power.

            I agree with you- us 99ers do not have the same monetary power as say the Koch brothers.

            But we do have the power to vote, we do have the power of the street, and we fail to use said power.

            Until the Constitution of the United States of America no longer provides for democratically elected representatives and overtly becomes the inverted totalitarian state that we are inching toward, all of us hold the same electoral power.

            Those Wall Street donors have been stealing more wealth for themselves over a period of decades. It wasn't too long ago that the wealth disparity in our nation was at an acceptable level. The Reagan Revolution was more of an overthrow of ideas and core beliefs rather than a political changing of the guard.

            I doubt seven months ago that the Tunisians and Egyptians felt that they had the same power as their oppressive dictators. They decided that their lack of monetary power would no longer suppress the power of numbers, of the people.

            I sound like a Tea Bagger. But power is what you make of it. Money holds a ridiculous amount of power over the American psyche- so much so that we are cowed into believing that it is the ultimate power.

            BTW, I find it mildy offensive that you would assert that my view of reality is, in fact, fanciful. What is fanciful is allowing ourselves to be fearful of the monetary power that is arrayed against us. We will not have the money, not now, nor in the near future to fight this unjust system on their terms.

            We have to use our strength: the forgotten, but not lost, Constitution and democratic processes that rely upon communication. We have to overcome the doubt that is cast upon us when we have little capital at our use and realize that the true power in a nation lies in the physical realm.

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