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  •  Herman Cain... (20+ / 0-)

    ...Michael Steele, Alan Keyes, Allen West. These are the kind of African-Americans that are attracted to the current Republican Party?

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Mon Jul 18, 2011 at 10:12:59 PM PDT

    •  I don't know (13+ / 0-)

      if Michael Steele, Alan Keyes & Allen West are the ONLY kinds of African-Americans that are attracted to the current Republican Party, but I do know that these are exactly the kinds of African-Americans the current Republican Party are attracted to, as evidenced by the Rethug's obvious love of putting them front and center and handing them a high-profile microphone to repeat whatever idiotic, hatemongering nonsense they order/allow them to speak.

      The Party of Hate is revolting

      by Orlaine on Tue Jul 19, 2011 at 01:26:38 AM PDT

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      •  The instinct-driven rely on imitation (9+ / 0-)

        to direct their behavior.  They do and say what they are told.  This makes them good spokespersons.  Also, because they don't analyze or critique what comes out of their mouths, any inconsistencies go unnoticed by them.
        Remember "speak the speech, I pray you, as I pronounced it to you"?  Conservative politicians are modern day actors and preachers, entertainers in a political context.  That is, the object of their presentation is public persuasion for the purpose of subordination -- i.e. to elicit the "consent of the governed" to being ruled, to enter into voluntary servitude.  It's an objective that's consistent with the belief (faith-based) that the only thing wrong with involuntary servitude was the involuntary part.  The servitude that people consent to (by signing on the dotted line) is just fine -- ideal, in fact.
        Indeed, the realization of voluntary servitude is what makes conservatives idealists. Remember GHWB's "thousand points of light"?  Remember "stop loss" which converted voluntary military service into the involuntary kind with a stroke of the pen?  Remember DADT which deprived military volunteers of free speech and association because they'd already signed their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness away?

        Conservatives, faced with the question of how best to persuade human beings to subordinate themselves without risk of resistance, have found their answer in propaganda, propagated 24/7 via electronic media. Why do they need it?  Because, unless some large segment of the population can be persuaded to surrender their goods and services to people who have nothing to offer in exchange, the latter can't survive.  Conservatives are needy.  That's why they whine.

        by hannah on Tue Jul 19, 2011 at 03:46:47 AM PDT

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      •  they are not (5+ / 0-)

        I know a couple of gay Blacks who are Republicans on economic grounds

        I have an acquaintance, Ralph Boyd, who was Asst AG for Civil Rights under GW Bush who is not like the gentlemen you named

        Ron Christie, who like Ralph is a graduate of the same college as me, Haverford, is often seen as a talking head for Republicans, was an aide to both Bush and Cheney.  He liked Republican positions on national security as near as I could figure out

        Just like Robinson is pointing out that larger groups - eg, all Muslims - should not be classed by the actions of a few, I think he would similarly argue even much smaller groups - eg Black Republicans - also should not be classed by the actions of their most extreme, for example Herman Cain.

        And remember, the one-time Minister of Information for the Black Panther Party, Eldridge Cleaver, became a Republican.  Not only that, he joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Sainst  (Mormons) in 1983.  Go figure.

        "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

        by teacherken on Tue Jul 19, 2011 at 04:38:54 AM PDT

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      •  Don't forget Clarence Thomas (5+ / 0-)

        Or should I say "Is that a public hair on your can of Coke Mr.  Associate Justice"?

    •  You've left out Clarence Thomas. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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      I'm one of the lucky homos in a bi-national relationship - at the age of 49, all I had to do was give up my career, leave my dying father, aging, diabetic mother, & family/friends behind and move to the Netherlands. Easy peasey

      by aggieric on Tue Jul 19, 2011 at 01:50:59 AM PDT

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      •  Poor Michael Steele. I feel sorry for him (3+ / 0-)
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        in this company.  He seems almost normal now that he is an MSNBC contributor.

        I hate to quote David Frum here but this may be more apropos, coming from him, "Yes the American media always loves a freak show. But a political party does not have to cooperate."

        by alliedoc on Tue Jul 19, 2011 at 05:57:10 AM PDT

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    •  Instinct-driven people, whose awareness (3+ / 0-)
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      level of themselves and others is low, gravitate to the modern Republican party, largely because the operatives make an effort to appeal to their proclivity to respond to superficial optics -- i.e. to perceive reality on the basis of how it looks, rather than what people do.
      We all know that "appearances are deceiving," but, if that's all a person can perceive, he's bound to be deceived and being often deceived is likely to be very unsettling.  In other words, those who must rely on superficial optics are almost certain to end up insecure and fearful.  And that's the population, which seems to be larger than we might think, that conservatives offering stability and constancy appeal to.  Insecure people welcome protection and that's what conservatives offer. That "protection" is restrictive and reinforced timidity is likely comforting.

      I'm reminded that some people like being "poured" into their clothes.  Wearing skin-tight clothing makes them feel more secure. Though, they're probably not aware of their choice. That tight clothing inhibits mobility doesn't bother people who aren't much inclined to move anyway.

      by hannah on Tue Jul 19, 2011 at 03:28:52 AM PDT

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    •  black self hate (0+ / 0-)

      Its a terrible thing. Well, self hate in general is terrible, and I think a good portion of it stems from our culture's use of media to enforce accepted norms.

      You've got to be young, white, slim, and in to whatever is popular, or hoody hoo, does this commercial have something to say to you.

      So, yeah. After hundreds of years of being told you're worthless, will never amount to anything, a born criminal, stupid, lazy, ignorant, shiftless, and a drain, and brother, its all because of the color of your skin, I think its easy to see why some people fall in to this trap.

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