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  •  Obama Has None of Those Assets to Make Clintonian (3+ / 0-)
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    gamble on. We didn't have any tax increases for the rich. There's been 20 years of outsourcing, automation and merging, suppressing a growing economy for Obama.

    And we're 15 years into Clinton's later media consolidation deregulation plus Citizens United, so the information available to most voters is overwhelmingly Republican.

    The 14th play sounds too radical for Obama, who doesn't seem to like the entire concept of challenge, but I wouldn't put it past him.

    I also wouldn't put it past Roberts to strike down the relevant section of the 14th Amendment as part of rejecting the President's play if he made it.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Jul 20, 2011 at 06:08:56 PM PDT

    •  It sounds unbelievable, but Clinton actually had (5+ / 0-)

      a more moderate GOP to work with than Obama. These tea party Republicans dont care what economists, Wall Street, or other Republicans say about the debt ceiling or consequences of default. If Obama says there would be a default, then it must be part of some Kenyan socialist plot for him to get more power.

      •  Bull, he did not. (6+ / 0-)

        The GOP Clinton had didn't threaten to shut down the government, they actually did.

        The GOP Clinton had didn't hold idiot hearings in Issa's committee in Congress, they paid for a 6 year long witch hunt by a special Prosecutor to dig into every aspect of the Clinton's lives.

        The GOP Clinton had IMPEACHED HIM.

        Both Clinton and Obama have the same degree of insanity to deal with on the GOP's part.  

        They turn the crazy up to Max as soon as a Democrat gets elected to the White House.

        Not 90% crazy for Clinton and 100% crazy for Obama.

        100% crazy against any Democrat who is in the White House.  You can't get MORE intransigent, more belligerent, more hostile, than 100%.  

        Yeah, imagine a skinny, beaky kid with an unfortunate last name, still trying to get approval and feel attractive and liked to cancel out all those other years growing up. - FarWestGirl

        by Rick Aucoin on Wed Jul 20, 2011 at 07:04:27 PM PDT

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    •  the 14th "play" isn't just radical (0+ / 0-)

      it's suicidal. Interest rates would take a significant hit simply based on the uncertainty of it all, and (sorry, former President Clinton), the legal reasoning is crap. Larry Tribe, who has spent his life studying the Constitution, says so.

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