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    Rebecca, tytalus

    isn't the last defense... it is the first. However, people don't generally like long history lessons and, in my experience, it really doesn't matter because most religious people have been taught to believe what they were taught as a matter of faith over substantive logic... meaning physical proof.

    The reality of it is that there really isn't a definitive answer that can be given in support of the God hypothesis. No one has physical or mathematical proof that God exists... period.

    Christians begin this argument from a false premise that those who don't believe need to prove a negative but will ignore the pure unadulterated fact I mentioned above when it is presented as proof. Because of faith.

    That means that this debate is the chicken and the egg.

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