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  •  Exellent description science (2+ / 0-)
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    science, pollwatcher

    thanks for keeping us posted from the front.

    So, if the August results are not what is expected, what really happens?

    Is it even possible we could reject the SM if the HB doesn't show up at the party?  Might take a century to accept that.

    I say people will continue to believe in the SM, regardless of the August results. It's the best description of nature, we have.    Even if experiment doesn't agree.

    I guess humans just have to have something to believe in.  Even scientifically trained humans.

    •  I assure you (1+ / 0-)
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      if the HB doesn't show up within a few months and the remaining region is closed, then NOBODY will believe in the Standard Model.  Period.  However, relatively minor modifications will be considered, and those will take another six months to a year to exclude.  Then, major modifications (although ones that keep the current successful predictions intact) will have to be made.   Who knows after that?

      •  Well, I look forward to the reaction from (0+ / 0-)

        the pending results.  Whatever they are.  And to your thoughts on whatever happens in their aftermath.

        If what you say is true.  That is, that the scientific community (today) is capable of tossing out a longheld theory because experimental evidence doesn't support it, then I think there is more hope that we will eventually find what Einstein sought.  That is:

        a complete worldview that is in accord with the principle of relativity.

        Hope the conference was fun.  It must be good to get together with folks who speak your own language.  


        •  I didn't go to the conference, (1+ / 0-)
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          Sneelock.  But these days, why should I?  I can watch the talks online.   If it were local, I certainly would go, just to see lots of friends.  I'm going to a conference in Providence in early August.

          One of the most popular theories in the 70's was called the SU(5) grand unified theory---completely unified the strong, weak and electromagnetic forces without need for new particles.   It predicted the proton would decay with a lifetime of 10^30 years.  The experiment was done and they didn't see it.  The theory was then thrown away.  So it does happen.

          •  Oh! Guess I misunderstood (0+ / 0-)

            Thought you were there live for this one.  But no matter.  Glad you can bring us the scoop from your virtual conference chair.

            I can hardly wait to see what happens in the next year or two.  Are we on the cusp of a new revolution?  Perhaps.

            I'm holding out hope for a theory that helps us understand how gravity, inertia, the movement of galaxies are generated.  And I hope you and your geek friends figure it out while I'm still breathing.


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