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  •  About there being no US manufacturing (1+ / 0-)
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    Corwin Weber

    that's not true, we're still #1 (if barely):

    Last year, the US created 19.9 per cent of world manufacturing output, compared with 18.6 per cent for China, with the US staying ahead despite a steep fall in factory production due to the global recession

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    And despite the economic crunch, and electrical demand being down very significantly, US coal production was up 2.6% last year.  That's on pace to double in less than 30 years.

    Just in case you didn't get that, coal use is skyrocketing in the face of significantly reduced electrical demand and all the ballyhoo'ed alternative green energy that's coming online in massive amounts that I read about here at DailyKos all the time.  

    Just imagine how dire things will be if demand for power actually picks up!  

    •  That's just King Coal and (1+ / 0-)
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      Russgirl

      the utility lobby at work to extract the last pound of flesh while destroying the environment. I live in southern Appalachia, I've seen the destruction. We introduce legislation every session to forbid the use of coal from mountaintop removal, Duke and Progress manage to beat it back, while charging us more than we can afford for nukes they haven't even broken ground on yet (and which will never be built, by the odds). Meanwhile, they passed legislation to forbid wind generation, because they've bought the dirty politicians. We are well aware that we must bypass the crooks and their corporate puppetmasters, take control of our own energy future. Are doing so, as best we can. We are not the only ones.

      So no, I do not think that after the PTB are done bankrupting the country and imposing ceaseless austerity they will suddenly find willing customers among the impoverished masses just because they allow a few sub-minimum wage jobs to open up here and there.

      Nukes absolutely require massive capital investment, even with the whole back end entirely left unfunded. We are told that our nation cannot afford health care or retirement anymore, education for the next generation, or even public transportation, libraries, parks, or anything other that resource wars. Rich people certainly won't invest in nukes, and the rest of us can't afford homes to live in these days. Food's getting pricier too, as the Masters of the Universe are cutting assistance.

      You won't get your 'renaissance'. Should probably start getting used to it.

      •  Sounds like your political strategy isn't working. (0+ / 0-)
        •  What political strategy? (0+ / 0-)

          Signing petitions to shut down ancient rattletrap Mark I and IIs in this country immediately? More petitions to demand the $36 billion in loan guarantees - statistically rated to 50% default - be stripped from the budget, the allotment to go instead to renewables? Yeah, petitioning the government is a fairly pointless exercise, but one that must be engaged anyway. Kind of like voting.

          Doesn't really matter, it's just voices making the effort to be heard. The 'renaissance' isn't going to happen regardless. I personally would rather have SS and Medicare than to have provided government loan guarantees for power plants that will never be built or run - at least half of them, I'd wager all of them by the time the fat lady sings.

    •  Coal is down 52% to 45% (1+ / 0-)
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      Joieau

      IIRC the last IEA numbers.

      FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Sun Jul 24, 2011 at 12:55:41 PM PDT

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