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  •  What recourse should a business have (0+ / 0-)

    if it cannot operate competitively, or can only operate at a significant dis-advantage at a union facility that has a history of job actions?

    Should it be able to put operations at other locations or replace these operations with an outside vendor?

    How can a business negotiate with a union, if it is not allowed alternative means of operating?  If the business does not have these alternatives, what, if anything, prevents the union from effectively having economic control of the business operation?

    Lastly, given alternatives, why would a business locate or expand into a place and hire people, where it will effectively give up the right to decide where it can locate operations or use suppliers for business operations?

    The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

    by nextstep on Tue Jul 26, 2011 at 02:33:46 PM PDT

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      burlydee

      Workers have the legal right to form unions, and owners have NO legal right to interfere with that.

      Period.

      Sorry if you don't like that.  Perhaps you'd be happier in some country that outlaws labor unions, like China or Iran.

      •  Sounds like companies will then limit their (0+ / 0-)

        operations in union states, to legacy operations and what is needed to sell in those states - otherwise don't hire in union states.

        I don't think this is the outcome that we want.

        The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

        by nextstep on Tue Jul 26, 2011 at 02:42:24 PM PDT

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        •  the outcome we want is (1+ / 0-)
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          burlydee

          to unionize the workers anywhere they go, and place every worker in the company in the same union with the same contract, whether they happen to be located in Tennessee, Tibet or Timbuktu. That is, and has always been, the only effective solution to whipsawing.

          The owners will ALWAYS put their jobs where the wages are lowest--no matter how many times we wave the flag or sing patriotic songs or chant "USA ! USA ! USA!" at them.

          There are only two ways to prevent that---either we lower our wages to match theirs, or we raise their wages to match ours.

          Which do you prefer.

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