This is only a Preview!

You must Publish this diary to make this visible to the public,
or click 'Edit Diary' to make further changes first.

Posting a Diary Entry

Daily Kos welcomes blog articles from readers, known as diaries. The Intro section to a diary should be about three paragraphs long, and is required. The body section is optional, as is the poll, which can have 1 to 15 choices. Descriptive tags are also required to help others find your diary by subject; please don't use "cute" tags.

When you're ready, scroll down below the tags and click Save & Preview. You can edit your diary after it's published by clicking Edit Diary. Polls cannot be edited once they are published.

If this is your first time creating a Diary since the Ajax upgrade, before you enter any text below, please press Ctrl-F5 and then hold down the Shift Key and press your browser's Reload button to refresh its cache with the new script files.


  1. One diary daily maximum.
  2. Substantive diaries only. If you don't have at least three solid, original paragraphs, you should probably post a comment in an Open Thread.
  3. No repetitive diaries. Take a moment to ensure your topic hasn't been blogged (you can search for Stories and Diaries that already cover this topic), though fresh original analysis is always welcome.
  4. Use the "Body" textbox if your diary entry is longer than three paragraphs.
  5. Any images in your posts must be hosted by an approved image hosting service (one of: imageshack.us, photobucket.com, flickr.com, smugmug.com, allyoucanupload.com, picturetrail.com, mac.com, webshots.com, editgrid.com).
  6. Copying and pasting entire copyrighted works is prohibited. If you do quote something, keep it brief, always provide a link to the original source, and use the <blockquote> tags to clearly identify the quoted material. Violating this rule is grounds for immediate banning.
  7. Be civil. Do not "call out" other users by name in diary titles. Do not use profanity in diary titles. Don't write diaries whose main purpose is to deliberately inflame.
For the complete list of DailyKos diary guidelines, please click here.

Please begin with an informative title:

I was in a debate with another Kossack yesterday about rights, what constitutes denial of rights and unequal rights, etc.

So, I'm going to create a civil right (meaning, a right legally enshrined in our Constitution's amendments), put forth twos scenario below the squiggle, and then you guys have at it!

Let's keep the debate robust but polite. No need to lambast or insult anyone for having a different opinion.


You must enter an Intro for your Diary Entry between 300 and 1150 characters long (that's approximately 50-175 words without any html or formatting markup).

Scenario 1:

There is an Constitutional Amendment guaranteeing necessary preventative and surgical healthcare for all US citizens. Though it's a federal program, it's administered through the States. A minimum expectation of services is set.

4 states go above and beyond that minimum, and choose to include elective cosmetic surgery (not face-fixing from a chimpanzee mauling; we're talking nose-jobs, eyebrow lifts) and gender-transition surgery in their universal offerings.

Is a citizen who resides in a state that is NOT one of the 4 listed above having their rights violated by not having access to the cosmetic and gender-transition surgeries? Assume you must be a citizen of one of those 4 states and have lived there for a year prior to becoming eligible for those additional services.

Scenario 2:

The SCOTUS decides that the 2nd Amendment covers mace, and that all US citizens have a right to mace of a minimum strength of 4 peppers (i made that strength measurement up). 16 states pass laws allowing their citizens to possess mace up to 8 peppers, while the rest of the states pass laws specifically limiting mace strength carried by civilians at the 4 pepper strength. Are the citizens of the 34 states limited at 4 peppers having their civil rights violated? Assume citizens of the 16 states cannot possess the 8-pepper strength mace in those states.

Have at it! Very interested to see the responses.

Extended (Optional)

Your Email has been sent.