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Today, I saw our problem first hand. We are in a world of trouble, people. Mobs are powerful and wholy beyond reason. Yet, they must be stopped, because they are extremely dangerous.

There are a lot of very angry, very frightened people out there, and about 150 of them turned out on a Wednesday afternoon to harass Senator Tom Harkin, shout incoherent political slogans (the same ones that have been diaried to death here in the last week), and to let him know that they are very angry about the idea of government in general and government health care in particular. The total crowd was limited to about 210 by the fire code.

Some people were wearing Teabagger T-Shirts, and others had reams of notes clearly pulled from the internet. There was no chance for anyone there to voice any approval of any health care bill, nor was there any chance to ask any of the legitimate questions we all ask here all the time.

All (that I can remember for sure) of what I heard after the jump....


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Senator Harkin opened by thanking the Public Health Clinic in my town, a clinic that provides care for people who cannot afford the big network-owned clinic in town that requires you yo have insurance or cash to walk in the door. He said that $500,000.00 had already been granted and received to institute dentistry at the clinic, and that another $175,000 for more equipment was approved and would arrive in the next week or so.

He explained health exchanges very well, and made an eloquent defense of the wellness and preventative care provisions that could well save trillions of dollars in the future. He said Pitney-Bowes saved 38% of costs in their employee health plan by instituting a wellness provision.

Harkin is a pro. He patiently listened to every single thing that was said.  Too bad it was 98% invective, racist blather and Paultard quasi-philosophy.

According to the people who basically took over the meeting, the Federal Government is operating a vast conspiracy to enslave freedom-loving citizens, and that civil war is a real possibility. The public option is a trojan horse to inflict health care on unsuspecting citizens who don't want it.

Here's the most rational argument made all afternoon:

"The government has never done anything right. Look at Medicare, Medicaid, the Post office, or any other government program and anybody can see how incompetent government is." The speaker was a wealthy business owner.

The next person read a few words from a provision in a House bill that he said allowed euthanasia for Grandmothers

Another person made a speech about having lived in Europe for 12 years, and that European style health care will not work in the US because: "The racial makeup of Europe is different than here, so European-style health care won't work here."

Another woman said she was from Detroit, and she knew a family member from Canada whose baby would have had to wait for 3 years to get a brain scan for a diagnosed growth on his brain.

When Senator Harkin said that the plans in the Senate are completely different than both the European and Canadian systems, There was loud hooting and derisive laughter from the audience. The next person said Medicare was a complete failure. Only then did Harkin show some slight anger. He said his father (a coal miner) told him in 1965 after the passage of Medicare that "now, I won't have to beg for health care anymore."  Then the same person said the VA was horrible. Harkin, a Vietnam War veteran, said that the VA has been up and down, but that it has helped millions of veterans.  The crowd exploded with laughter.

One questioner asked whether Senator Harkin would sign up for the public option instead of his current government plan.  He said yes, but the crowd wouldn't take yes for answer. Attempting to speak over the commotion, Harkin said that the health care exchange system that will come out of his committee is much the same as the Federal employees plan today. Somebody shouted, "we don't want it!"

After that point all the comments were literally frightening.  One questioner asked Harkin if he realized that passage of a health care would force patriots to begin a civil war in the US?  This question was followed by sustained shouting of approval. Then the guy said there would be a million people marching in Washington to take back the country from the socialists unless.

The next person said that the entire Federal government was illegal because the constitution prevented the government from doing anything about health care, and that it is up to citizens to "take our country back."  He misquoted the first and fourth amendments to the constitution.

So, rational discourse was completely absent. People (like me) who wanted to press for a better bill had no chance to even ask a question. The only consolation is that Harkin has seen it all before. He won't be swayed by fanatics.

But what should or could we do about these maniacs.  My sense is that this is a serious situation. When intimidation works, and it worked here today, it operates like a drug. The maniacs need more intimidation to get the same thrill of power.  I don't think they're gonna go away.

I hope Netroots Nation provide some good ideas about this phenomenon, because I've never felt such venom and anger in my life - and I've been attacked personally as a serious candidate for office, and been a target as a local party chair. The last time I saw this level of hatred, it was Dallas, 1963.

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Originally posted to DHinIA on Wed Aug 12, 2009 at 06:45 PM PDT.


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