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During one of its fundraising cycles, PBS showed a concert by the Celtic Thunder musical group, where the concert concluded with their rendition of the song, My Land.

My Land

I looked for it on YouTube. If anyone uploaded it, I suspect it was removed for copyright violation. (There are a couple of versions of it sung by Paul Bryom, who sometimes sings (or sang) with Celtic Thunder, though he did not participate in the myspace version, above.)

Lyrics below (and more, besides!).

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Here are the lyrics for My Land:

My Land
How green are your valleys, how blue your great skies,
Your mountains stand tall in their glory:                                      
Your rivers run free - the bright stars are your eyes,
Your beauty is endless before me.                                           

Oh, you are the song ever singing in me,      
And you are the heart ever true:
For, you are my land and you always will be,  
The voice ever calling me… home to you.

When times we are far from your forests and streams,
When sailing from your shining waters:
We carry your hopes - your spirit, your dreams-
In the hearts of your sons and your daughters.

CHORUS

When to your green valleys some day I return,
When you lay your mantle around me:                                          
At rest I will be where the heart will not yearn,
With my land to ever…surround me.                      

CHORUS

The voice ever calling me…home to you.

(From here.)

In this country, very many don't really know the definition of nationalism. Why learn a word that might accurately describe behavior/attitudes you have no wish to critically evaluate?

(Diary change of direction.) Oh did I get into a can of worms! The concept for the diary was to merely describe the envy I have for the pride the members of Celtic Thunder seem to feel for their country in that fine song, and to ask what you would have to see from your country to feel similar sentiments. (Because I envy them, some.)

But, in researching it, among other things, I found a series of quite incredible goodreads quotations. The goodreads quotations are so good, they threaten to hijack my diary outright! (Maybe they did!)

Here are just a FEW examples.

“Here is your country. Cherish these natural wonders, cherish the natural resources, cherish the history and romance as a sacred heritage, for your children and your children's children. Do not let selfish men or greedy interests skin your country of its beauty, its riches or its romance.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
Isn’t that what they do/are doing? These vicious nationalists?!
“The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first and love of soft living and the get-rich-quick theory of life.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
(I particularly like the Roosevelt quotations, because, well, he is counted as a Republican. In my opinion, today’s Republican party would attack him with the same viciousness they reserve for white Democrats. Very few of them would agree with the quotations I have relayed here.)
“Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”
― Arthur Schopenhauer, Essays and Aphorisms
“Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one”
― John Lennon, Imagine

There is a reason Lennon is one of my favorites, and that song is right at the top of the songs I most love.
“It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.”
― Voltaire
And from another of my favorite human beings:
“There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people.”
― Howard Zinn
“But you know as well as I, patriotism is a word; and one that generally comes to mean either my country, right or wrong, which is infamous, or my country is always right, which is imbecile.”
― Patrick O'Brian, Master and Commander
“Nationalism is an infantile thing. It is the measles of mankind.”
― Albert Einstein
There are many more fine comments there. (And a few I would have NEVER included!) Please feel free to read more, and if you would like to share them in comments, please do!

After I began this diary I found a relevant, Memorial Day story on the issue at CNN.

The story writes about nationalism - without EVER once mentioning the word! About how ‘patriot’ became a dirty word. It is because patriot is taking on the worst connotations of nationalist, because of the way it is used by self-proclaimed ‘patriots.’ By people who hate much of what we find best and MOST noble about this country. By people who hate our president. By people who hate that impediments to racism and overt hatred and discrimination - in their warped view - seem to be on the rise.

It is like the essays we read on why ‘Christianity’ is under attack. It is clear to us that it happens because Christianity, as expressed by its most obnoxious proponents, is ON the attack. Using Christianity to justify attacks on the poor, on the disadvantaged, on minorities, on human beings of different ethnic origins. The nationalists attack all the same targets, as if such attacks were part of the proper role of government, itself, which they’re not. Christianity would be much less under attack if it attacked less. Is that really the role of Christianity? I never read anything about conducting such attacks - or using such incredibly judgmental attitudes - in the Golden Rule.

I do disagree in many ways with the CNN article. Groups with that nationalistic an agenda are not non-profit groups in any real sense. And worse, they aren’t for the improvement of our country or our government. Their agendas are totally and utterly selfish, self-serving. In my opinion, they, and many other groups not necessarily quite so wing-nutty, deserve all the attention they get for compliance with the law and tax-exempt status.

Anyway, back to my original objective. What would this country have to do for you to be able to sing a love song for it with joy and pride? Is that possible?



For me it would have to embrace diversity, respect minorities, trumpet equal rights, and not just for our citizens, for all humanity. It would have to respect the earth and the environment, work for the safety and equality of all people, so that no one felt alone, abandoned, victimized. So that everyone could pursue her/his creative ventures freely and naturally, without having to worry about personal or collective security, without having to fear discrimination, and the attention of those invested in hate. Our country would have to have the respect and admiration of our fellow world citizens, who would know our commitment to charity and fairness, and to the protection of resources needed and valued by all.

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