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From what I'm hearing, the local Sinclair stations have no say in airing the anti-Kerry program. Doesn't matter, the harder we hit them, the more they'll pressure HQ to back off the program.

But if you want to go straight to the top, here are the three who made the decision: (Mark Hyman, host) (David Smith, president) (Joe Defeo, news director)

Main telephone: 410.568.1500
Main Fax: 410.568.1533

As a fun aside, Atrios notes that David Smith, conservative stalwarth, likes the hookers.
The president of Baltimore-based Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc., which owns the local Fox television affiliate, was arrested Tuesday night and charged with committing a perverted sex act in a company-owned Mercedes, city police said.
So yeah, your typical hypocritical brand of conservatives.

Let's get a list of advertisers, people. They need to get some tough love as well.

And someone get the information for MSNBC. The Chris Matthews panel for Friday's debate was disgraceful. We need to demand balance, not a gaggle of Republicans.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 09:40 AM PDT.

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  •  it's (none)
    everyone can be reached there.

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:38:23 PM PDT

    •  some other people should write (none)
      they're sick of me.

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:38:47 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  LOL! (none)
        alrighty then....will try to get them sick of ME!  (I know that my "representative" David Dreier already is....)

        You will be better advised to watch what we do instead of what we say. - John Mitchell

        by jillian on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:39:53 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Done and Done (none)
        I wrote them a very brief, even somewhat light and supportive, message expressing my "dismay" at their unbalanced lineup last Friday.

        To think that someone named Ronald Reagan was the most left-leaning member of the panel!

        If you think Bush really is (he is!) the worst president ever, go to and spread the word.

        by Long Haul on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:18:59 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Flooded (none)
          Friday night I sent, and suggested everyone else send, that clip posted. Not link to, SEND. From your hard drive. The clip. At 3MB. If a few thousand people sent a 3MB clip to Tweety and overloaded their servers, in order to make the point that Bush is a pathological angry liar, and Kerry shot back some really good lines and WON, maybe they'd listen a little.

          Add to that email a hard-hitting like like "stop being little toady shills and get a real discussion on your dumb little program"...then we'll get somewhere.

          I'd love a list of advertisers, for Tweety and for Sinclair. I will write every one of them.

          Dammit, I wish I had time to cobble together my Media Backtalk webpage, it would be really handy for everyone. I wanted to make a whole DB of media emails and allow blogs and other people to make media campaigns of their choosing so we can organize the response to this shit...Anyone out there a programmer who wants to work with me (volunteer)? I've designed the site and have ideas how to implement but I'm not so good at programming/databases. It's be in PHP/MyAdmin, I'd take care of front end and hosting.

          (You can email me at lynne at if interested.)

        •  done done and done again (none)
          that panel was hard to take.  Wrote to em already!  
      •  I Wrote (3.50)

        New member this weekend.  I'll get the hang of formatting this stuff as I go.  

        I just wanted you to know I wrote the Sinclair execs and to Hardball.

        Listening to Buchanan on Friday got me irritated enough to write and express my dis-satisfaction.  Their extended coverage keeps me interested and tuned in but the panel was definately spinning right.  

        I heard about this blog on MSNBC when Joe Trippi talked about it.  It's pretty good!

    •  as to Sinclair advertisers (none)
      note the rcommended diary:

      Boycott Sinclair advertisers

      "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

      by Greg Dworkin on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:53:24 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  To inflict additional pain (none)
        Call the Wall Street Analysts who review their securities.  I think this atrocious behavior shows that management makes poor decisions, and a sell recommendation is in order.  Contact info here

        •  Executives and company directors? (none)
          What about the senior management who can fire these three, and the company directors who can fire them??

          Likely to be repugs, of course, but perhaps also interested in running their company in a profitable way rather than being boycotted by the public or sued for breaching their fiduciary duty to stockholders.
      •  David Brock, Media Matters (none)
        has also enlisted.

        David D. Smith
        President and Chief Executive Officer
        Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc.
        10706 Beaver Dam Road
        Hunt Valley, Maryland 21030

        Dear Mr. Smith:

        I'm writing to ask you to cancel plans, reported in the October 9 edition of the Los Angeles Times, to force Sinclair Broadcasting Group stations to preempt regular programming and broadcast a film attacking Senator John Kerry between now and the November 2 presidential election.

        According to the Times, the film, Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal, "features former POWs accusing Kerry -- a decorated Navy veteran turned war protester -- of worsening their ordeal by prolonging the war." The Times reported that the maker of the film, former Washington Times reporter (and former Bush administration official) Carlton Sherwood, tells viewers on the film's website: "Intended or not, Lt. Kerry painted a depraved portrait of Vietnam veterans, literally creating the images of those who served in combat as deranged, drug-addicted psychopaths, baby killers" that has endured for 30 years.

        I don't have to remind you, as the Times pointed out, that "Sinclair stations are spread throughout the country, in major markets that include Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Las Vegas. ... Fourteen of the 62 stations the company either owns or programs are in the key political swing stations of Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where the presidential election is being closely fought."

        As described by the Times, Sinclair's plan to air the film raises questions about whether Sinclair would be running afoul of federal regulations "requiring broadcasters to provide equal time to major candidates in an election campaign ..." Provisions of the McCain-Feingold law would also appear to be at issue in your decision. The reported effort by Sinclair executives to instruct station managers to classify the film as "news," thus skirting these political broadcasting regulations, would be a charade given its blatant anti-Kerry slant.

        I trust that in light of these concerns, you will reconsider your company's apparent decision to air "Stolen Honor."


        David Brock
        President and CEO
        Media Matters for America

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 07:51:27 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Olbermann (none)
      I'm gonna try writing to Keith Olbermann.   I figure it can't hurt, and at least I can honestly tell him that I watch and enjoy Countdown.
    •  LtE (none)
      My quick note:

      Your debate coverage is dismaying - packing your panels with right wing pundits is unfair to your audience and is a great disservice to the country. The Chris Matthews panel for Friday's debate was especially disgraceful. I expect better of of MSNBC, please don't tell me you are planning on following Fox down the hole of partisan coverage - you are bigger than that.

      Berkeley, Ca

  •  I agree we can make some hay over this (none)

    But perhaps it's best not to, as these stations are very weak in their markets. The highest one is 13th in its market.

  •  David Smith is in the directory (none)
    If you call Sinclair's main phone # you can press 4 for a company directory in order to get to David Smith or whoever.
    •  Go Screw Yer Hookers Dave! (none)
      or we're gonna screw with yer advertisers. LOSER!

      You can't always tell the truth because you don't always know the truth - but you can ALWAYS be honest.

      by mattman on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:51:54 PM PDT

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      •  California Public Employee Retirement System (none)
        In addition to going after the advertisers, go after the investers. CalPERS has a long history of being the first to jump on stuff like this and when CalPERS leads, others follow:

        Here is the contact page

        •  Done (none)
          Great approach!  I just dropped them a line.

          If you think Bush really is (he is!) the worst president ever, go to and spread the word.

          by Long Haul on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:25:46 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Can Someone Notify Soros? (none)
          He could do some major damage there? And didn't THK mention something about opening up the funds if they went dirty?

          You can't always tell the truth because you don't always know the truth - but you can ALWAYS be honest.

          by mattman on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:45:50 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Why not email Soros (none)
            Just email him

            Rageaholics are unfit for command. Rage as an addiction

            by Lucian on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 04:25:16 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  I did email Soros (none)
              Mr. Soros,
              I'm sure you are aware of Sinclair's plans to air an Anti-Kerry film on election eve.  This is an outrageous abuse of power in my opinion and something needs to be done.  I'm hoping you are the person who can make it happen.  I have seen Going Upriver and it is an incredibly powerful movie.  I have two thoughts, buy airtime and broadcast the movie nationwide or at least in selected markets and/or distribute the DVD for free.  I have already downloaded in off the internet for free and I plan on making as many copies as possible for distribution.  There is already a lot of talk on the internet and other people expressing similar ideas.  I believe that a lot of people like me would gladly contribute if you can make this happen.  We have already allowed the far right to destroy Bill Clinton and hijack the last election.  There isn't any dirty trick they wouldn't try in order to elect George Bush for a second term.  I know you feel strongly about our country like many good Americans and you will try do what you can and help us get our country back
            •  Email to Sinclair Broadcasting (none)
              Egregious abuse of power

              Mr. Sinclair's decision to broadcast a highly inflammatory "film" on the eve of the election is an unprecedented abuse of power.  The invitation to invite Senator Kerry to take part in a panel discussion afterward is a smokescreen for fairness and an insult to Senator Kerry.  If you want to be fair, do not broadcast it at all.  Let the election process play it self out.  If you do choose to broadcast film, the only fair thing would to broadcast Going Upriver: The Long War of John Kerry the following night or immediately afterward.  I believe Mr. Sinclair would not dare broadcast Going Upriver, because when people have a chance to balance the two films, I am certain they will choose the truth over lies.  Mr. Sinclair's attempt to influence this election process with the public airwaves is un-American.   One thing I have found out about this election, Democrats are angry, very angry.  We will not go quietly and sit back like lambs waiting to be slaughtered like in past years.  We are organized, energized and won't be kicked again.  There will be no more 5 year Whitewater fiascos.  There will be no more stolen elections.  We will not sit quietly by and do nothing.

              All we want is fairness.  If George Bush is elected President on Nov. 2nd and the election is perceived to be fair, America can move on.  If the election is even perceived to be unfairly won, the repercussions to this nation could be profound.

  •  Thanks! More help (none)
    Thank for all who have helped with the ND Gubernatorial poll.  It closes sometime this week, and the results get published in the paper.  Make sure you go and vote for Joe Satrom, Dem Candidate for Gov, at:

  •  can't the FEC or FCC weigh in? (none)
    isn't there a responsibility to give equal time to candidates prior to an election? After airing this movie, those stations should have to air F911 or Going Upriver to provide some balance.

    Shouldn't they?

    I'm just asking, can't be be writing to a regulator rather than to Sinclair, since they obviously aren't likely to change their minds?

    •  They're (none)
      calling it a news program because they are having a discussion group after it.
    •  Equal time (none)
      was a casualty of the Reagan collective bargaining for the ATC Union and a "moral imperitive" for our foreign policy (Carter Doctrine).  

      There are some regualtions about campaign comemrcials close to the election...and they should apply to this, since its a 90 minute Anti-Kerry screed...but it's much like if Mike Moore payed HBO to air Farenheit at 7 and 9 pm for the three nights leadig up to the election.

      Dirty but almost certainly legal.

      "That government of, by, and for the people shall not perish from the Earth."

      by TheGryphon on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:56:20 PM PDT

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      •  who oversees campaign commercials? (none)
        the FEC?

        you'd think that if we flooded their mailboxes about it and got up the rear-ends of Congressional types who are opposed to media consolidation and want more regulation of campaign finance (read: McCain) they might do something just to shut us up.

        •  Either the FEC or the FCC (none)
          would have authority I guess...but my understnading of campaign law is that as long as the campaigns/parties don't actually pay for the ad, its more or less legal.

          "That government of, by, and for the people shall not perish from the Earth."

          by TheGryphon on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:54:33 PM PDT

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          •  But why no F911 commercials? (none)
            I'm confused -- wasn't there a flap about not airing TV ads for Fahrenheit 9/11 when it came out, because they'd somehow violate FEC regulations? How does Sinclair get around that?
      •  It's a little different (none)
        HBO is a cable channel and isn't really covered by alot of the FCC rules, because people pay to receive it in their homes.  That's why they can get away with swearing and nudity in their programing.  Regular broadcast channels are free to the general public and are under the FCC standards and practices rules.  

        The horrible thing about what Sinclair is doing is that they are calling it "news" because of the discussion panel they are having after it.   They think this will fit in whatever loop hole they have found in the FCC or FEC rules concerning campaign ads before an election.

        I need to find those rules to read them myself.

        I think Howie Kurtz reported this morning what Sinclair is planning and referred back to them being the company that forbid it's stations from carrying Ted Koppel's Nightline broadcast of the names of all the dead soldiers (man, that was over 300 casualties ago!).  I could be wrong, because I was all over the place this morning, but I think he was the only one who talked about it.  

        •  They are the ones (none)
          as to why Sinclair thinks this is go t me there...maybe they just think Shrubbies judicial appointments won't care...

          "That government of, by, and for the people shall not perish from the Earth."

          by TheGryphon on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 06:45:57 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Kurtz on CNN (none)
    blasted Sinclair today, both over forcing stations to run the piece, and over the earlier Nightline disgrace.  He wrapped it up: "Sinclair -- we don't even pretend to be fair and balanced!" I thought it was a great approach -- Sinclair discredited, with no additional publicity for the anti-Kerry slander!
  •  FYI: That school terror alert was BOGUS! (none)
    Remember how the Dept of Education sent out a note on Thursday warning schools that they could be a target for terrorism? Well, just 24 hours later that order was rescinded! Typical of the administration to throw out a scare to all the media and then quietly say it was bogus hours later after scaring the crap out of people.

    Here is the article showing this order was recinded:

  •  Whorehoppers for Bush! (none)
    Damn. If Bush has the whoremongers' and perverts' votes, we're screwed.

    Why is it that THEY ALWAYS PROTEST TOO MUCH. Mealymouthed motherfuckers. Damn their self-righteous asses. I wonder if the wiser Republicans wash their hands a lot after a political get together?

    November 2: We're hacking up a hairball.

    by perro amarillo on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:49:37 PM PDT

  •  CNN Late Edition online Poll (none)
    Kerry is winning this latest vote on 'who won the debate', but here is the link for Kosers to weigh in:

  •  Write the rest of the media (none)
    After Dan Rather, we know they love to pick on each other.

    CNN has already picked up on the story today.  Mainstream media outrage will be most productive.

  •  I can't even begin to express (none)
    How excited I am that we're finally doing what the right has been doing for 30 years. Energized and organized, baby!
  •  Advertisers (4.00)
    Site is up, will add list of advertisers as they are identified.


    •  This is what, the 3rd website? (none)
      Oh, well -- the more the merrier, I guess!
    •  On Line Advertisers (none)
      I went to one of the other boycottsinclair websites and couldn't find an email contact to send this information to. I'll try the above link, but in the meantime, this is what I found by checking the sites on the Sinclair Interactive Map.

      I think the most obvious targets are Geico, ITT and Isuzu. For what it's worth:

      Sinclair Broadcasting is doing a terrible job of getting advertisers for their web sites. The most successful site I found was KOVR in Sacramento:

      Isuzu, Cingular, Kia, Yahoo, ITT and Heald College

      I found this contact for Isuzu:
      Write Us
      Isuzu Motors America, Inc.
      Owner Relations
      16323 Shoemaker Ave.
      Cerritos, CA 90702
      Call Us
      Hours: 6 am to 5 pm (PST)
      Monday - Friday

      The rest of their sites had very few or no advertisements. The only advertisers I found on multiple sites were Geico and ITT. I admit that I ran out of steam as I moved towards the East coast because there were so few stations that had any advertisers at all. The following is a list of the stations that I did check that had advertisers on their web site. Would these advertisers be a good place to start?

      KABB & KRRT San Antonio
      General Motors

      KMWB Minneapolis

      KDSM   Des Moines
      Coca Cola

      WZTV  Nashville
      Circuit City

      WKEF  Dayton

      WSYX  Columbus

  •  Sinclair Investors (none)
    Do you have investments in a company that contains Sinclair in the portfolio? Your 401k, IRA or other investment vehicle may be a financial backer of Sinclair Broadcast Group (SBGI).  Check your retirement investment account today. If you see SBGI, send them an email or make a telephone call expressing your displeasure.  

    Here is a current list of investors in "SBGI"

  •  If You Pay for Sex in the Company Car (none)
    Can you you write it off as a business expense? How about especially-perverted acts, those have to cost extra, right?

    We the undersigned urge you to support Federal funding for research using human pluripotent stem cells. -80 Nobel Laureates to Pres. Bush

    by easong on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:54:16 PM PDT

  •  Keep Writing (none)
    they're tired of me, too, and I'm writing from Canada. The just isn't a word in the lexicon for Sinclair, who won't allow the name of a young dead hero to be broadcast while they jam hookers in the company car and pimp for Bush the Bully.

    Canada - where a pack of smokes is ten bucks but a heart transplant is free.

    by dpc on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:55:23 PM PDT

  •  Sinclair Stations and Contact Information (none)
    Like Kos said, even if local Sinclair stations have no say over the decision, the more we pressure them, the more they complain to headquarters - maybe they'll listen to them, if not to us.  Here are the stations and their phone numbers:

    2713 KOVR Drive
    West Sacramento, CA 95605

    3830 S. Jones Blvd.
    Las Vegas, NV 89103

    4335 NW Loop 410
    San Antonio, TX 78229

    1501 NE 85th St.
    Oklahoma Cith, OK 73131

    1640 Como Avenue
    Minneapolis, MN 55108

    4023 Fleur Drive
    Des Moines, IA 50231

    600 Old Marion Road, NE
    Cedar Rapids, IA 54202

    10 E. Cambridge Circle Dr.
    Kansas City, KS 66103

    1215 Cole Street
    St. Louis, MO 63106

    7847 Big Sky Dr.
    Madison, WI 53719

    WCGV & WVTV  
    4041 N. 35th Street
    Milwaukee, WI 53216

    2714 E. Lincoln Street
    Bloomington, IL 61704

    250 South Country Fair Drive
    Champaign, IL 61812

    2680 East Cook Street
    Springfield, IL 62703

    KBSI  & WDKA
    806 Enterprise St.
    Cape Girardeau, MO 63703

    G-3463 W. Pierson Road
    Flint, MI 48504

    651 Beacon Pky W, Ste 105
    Birmingham, AL 35209

    631 Mainstream Drive
    Nashville, TN 37228

    3206 Hanover Rd., PO Box 3489
    Johnson City, TN 37602

    836 Euclid Avenue
    Lexington, KY 40505

    1731 Soldiers Home Road
    Dayton, OH 45418

    5177 Fishwick Drive
    Cincinnati, OH 45216

    WSYX  & WTTE
    1261 Dublin Road
    Columbus, OH 43215

    WCHS  & WVAH  
    1301 Piedmont Road
    Charleston, WV 25301

    4990 Mobile Hwy.
    Pensacola, FL 32506

    8440 Deerlake Road
    Tallahassee, FL 32312

    Bay Television, Inc.
    7622 Bald Cypress Place
    Tampa, FL 33614

    4301 Arco Lane
    Charleston, SC 29418

    110 Technology Drive
    Asheville, NC 28803
    (864)297-1313 (Greenville, SC office)

    WXLV & WUPN  
    3500 Myer Lee Dr.
    Winston-Salem, NC 27101

    3012 Highwoods Blvd, Ste 101
    Raleigh, NC 27604

    1925 Westmoreland St.
    Richmond, VA 23230

    900 Granby Street
    Norfolk, VA 23501

    2000 W. 41st Street
    Baltimore, MD 21211

    750 Ivory Avenue
    Pittsburgh, PA 15214

    WUTV  & WNYO
    951 Whitehaven Rd.
    Grand Island, NY 14072

    360 East Avenue
    Rochester, NY 14604

    WSYT  & WNYS  
    1000 James Street
    Syracuse, NY 13203
    (315) 472-6800

    1300 Liberty Street
    Springfield, MA 01102-0040

    1335 Washington Ave
    Portland, ME 04103

    •  Called Sacramento station KOVR (none)
      Let them know that a boycott was happening and that their advertisers were being contacted in response to Sinclair forcing their affiliates to carry an anti-Kerry propaganda piece. said that I recognized that they were between a rock and a hard place but that the boycott would go forward.

      Suggestion, like we did with the debate questions, can people adopt various stations, create a diary and then start listing advertisers, contact info, suggested LtE's etc for each market? It would help us focus a bit better.

      Monday I'll start calling advertisers - no one's home on the weekend.

    •  A reply about (none)
      1925 Westmoreland St.
      Richmond, VA 23230

      I live in rural VA outside Richmond.  WRLH has an agreement to  have their 'news' produced by the local NBC affiliate. (WBBT12)  This is true in other markets too, so why not report on these arrangements and bug the 'news' organizations that make money off this crap?

      WBBT 12 (NBC)
      Richmond VA
      Jefferson Pilot Communications
      Corporate Office
      P.O. Box 21008
      100 N. Greene St.
      Greensboro, NC 27420

      Advertisers (web)

      Literally no national advertisers on their site.

      WRLH 35 (FOX) SBGI
      Richmond VA

      Advertisers (web)

      Salvation Army
      Miller Beer
      ITT Eductional Services, Inc.

      "Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc. currently owns and operates, or programs, 62 television stations in 40 markets. Sinclair's television group includes FOX, WB, ABC, CBS, NBC, and UPN affiliates and reaches approximately 25.0% of all U.S. television households."

      That should be enough for someone to take stations away from these fascists.


    •  Neilson Families MUST Know what Stations are SBG (none)

      If they knew about this, they'd punish the local channels that air it for the next month as a message, and FOREVER in retribution if they go through with it.


      Efforts and scandal is having an impact.

      Stock Quotes

       DOWN 7.50


      Check your 401K's. Do you own it? CALL YOUR BROKER. Let them know you want to DUMP SINCLAIR. Brokers don't like activism on the radar. Downgrade Sinclair with your voice.

      These hypocrites pre-empt NIGHTLINE for being "politcal" but want to air an Anti-Kerry INFOMERCIAL before the election?

      Good. Then I'm going to ruin them to the best of my ability. Financially. In the arena of public relations and RATINGS.

      Local newspapers are key to get the word out to NEILSON HOUSHOLDS. A thousand will make a dent. 10,000 will ruin a local market.

      I'm energized by this challenge. And I already sent them my thoughts and contact info. Let them run and hide. I'm not.

  •  hardball@bsnbc (none)
    What else can we expect from BSNBC?
  •  Let them run it (none)
    This will be a disaster for Sinclair and all corporate run media. They are desperate and not thinking clearly.

    The effort to alert Sinclair's shareholders and boycott advertisers is a good idea but if Sinclair runs this it will back fire for Bush and lift the curtain on corporate media propaganda for all to see.

    I say we get the message out as best we can and hope they run it.

    "Somehow 'we told you so' just doesn't say it"

    by Rp on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 01:59:04 PM PDT

  •  sending ..... (none)
    Dear Sir,

    I am reading those reports about how you like to have a perverted act in a company-owned Mercedes and I wonder what exactly you were doing with the hooker?


  •  My Letter to the trio of assholes at Sinclair (none)
    To whom it may concern,

    I recently discovered via the LA Times that you will be forcing affiliates to run a film that is critical of John Kerry's anti-war activities. I find this extremely bias and totally in violation of the intent of FCC rules on broadcasting.

    I own considerable investments in mutual funds that have Sinclair and will dump them immediatly if you insist on forcing your stations to run the program. I have also sent notes to my local affiliate as well as people who advertise on local stations.

    Very dissappointed

  •  do the networks that they are affiliated have any (none)
    about seems like they are hurting thier good name as well.

    this is your mission: TERMINATE the Bush presidency

    by nevadadem on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:02:24 PM PDT

  •  Gang of Three (none)
    I just emailed the Gang of Three and sent this post on to my friends (too few for my comfort) urging them to take action.

    If this is the "silver bullet" that Rove is counting on, we can deflect it with a golden shield.

    If you think Bush really is (he is!) the worst president ever, go to and spread the word.

    by Long Haul on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:14:03 PM PDT

  •  Balance (none)
    Sinclair has said it's ok to air it if they get a Kerry person on. (No violation of FCC rules.)  What I want to know is: what Kerry person has agreed to come on?  I hope I have this wrong.

    It's hard work to love Poland the best we can.

    by Unstable Isotope on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:25:57 PM PDT

    •  Who Cares? (none)
      Who cares what they say, what way they decide to wriggle around the law?  This is more of the same game the RePUGnants have been running for...well, since the death of Lincoln.  Certainly since they stuck US Grant into the Oval Office.

      If you think Bush really is (he is!) the worst president ever, go to and spread the word.

      by Long Haul on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:33:19 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Don't think K/E's on board (none)
      I'd understood the LA Times article to say that Sinclair was considering a plan to offer a post-movie panel, etc. to Kerry, to counter any potential charges of bias. (Which, frankly, is the most cynical, jack-ass thing I've ever heard. Unfuckingbelievable!)

      But anyway, I didn't get that a Kerry rep had agreed, or even that the campaign had officially been approached yet.


  •  List of Companies that invest in Sinclair (none)
    Earnest Partners LLC
    Gamco Investors Inc

    Morgan Stanley
    Westfield Capital Management Company 2,616,950

    Neuberger Berman, LLC
    Putnam Investment Management,

    Perry Corp.

    Barclays Bank Plc

    Blackrock Inc. Janus Capital Management, LLC

    Janus, Inc

  •  Start sending them fake invoices (none)
    From VIP Escort Services

    Dea Mr. Smith.

    Your Bill for us reamins unpaid

    9/24. . . unnatural and perverted act . . . $350

    9/16. . . unnatural and perverted act . . . $350


    As you know, payment was due October 1, 2004.  Please remit payment upon receipt of this invoice.

  •  Sinclair OH-area advertisers (4.00)
    Working from a list of Columbus OH-area Sinclair advertisers that was posted on, I have added some web links and telephone contacts. When calling, your best bet is to try to get their public relations / communications / public affairs manager when calling the main number. Where a national advertiser was given, I've tried to pull that information off their websites. For publicly-traded companies, calling their investor relations number may also help. They HATE hearing from angry investors.

    List of ads at WTTE (fox 28) and WSYX (ABC 6), Columbus, OH web page:

    Atlas Butler heating & cooling (1-800-furnace)

    Pepsi (corporate website), but it may also worth contacting PepsiCola Bottling of Columbus: (614) 253-8771

    Time Warner Cable - (614) 220-0979 or (614) 481-5389 for Public Affairs

    Chesrown Pontiac-Buick-GMC - 800-274-3603

    OSU Ross Heart Hospital - 614-293-5123

    Kenneth's Hair Salons and Day Spas - 614.457.7712

    Road Runner high-speed online - (614) 220-0979 or (614) 481-5389 for Public Affairs


  • Toyota of America - 1-800-GO-TOYOTA or
  • Coughlin Chevrolet Geo Toyota - (614) 221-6505
  • Toyota West - (614) 870-8200
  • Toyota Direct - (614) 476-1979
  • Germain Toyota - (614) 868-0300
  • Tansky's Toyota - (614) 793-2080

    ITT Tech - 614 771-4888

    Circuit City - local stores are (614) 471-7025 or (614) 760-5890; for the Senior Public Relations Representative for Ohio, call Kathie Hess at (804) 418-8298

    Central Ohio Hyundai Dealers

  • Dennis Hyundai - 614 471-2900
  • Hatfield's Hyundai Subaru - 614 870-9559

    Competition Accessories - (937) 323-0513

    Scrubbing Bubbles automatic shower cleaner - SC Johnson Corporate - 1.800.494.4855 or Public Relations at 262.260.3709 or 262.260.4402

    Geico Insurance - Urbana, OH office: (937) 484-8911, or call Corporate Communications at 301-986-2812

    Homes That Click realtors - (614) 268-7653

    Verizon Wireless - Midwest P.R. Manager David Clevenger 847-619-4291, Ohio P.R. Manager Laura Merritt 614-560-2605

    United Way - (614) 227-2700

  •  Post a message at Sinclair Message board on Yahoo (none)
    Registered Yahoo users (and by the way, we should all register to participate in their news stories' polls ) can go here and post a comment about the negative impact on the stock, advertiser boycott, likelihood of class action lawsuits for diluting stockholders' value, and anything else you can think of. No profanity, and try to stick solely to the financial hit the company will take because of managements' hard right ideology.  Believe it or not, analysts and investors do keep an eye on stuff like this just to see what's going on.
       Meantime Lexis/Nexis account users can help by finding out more about the principals in the company AND Carlton Sherwood, the former Wash Times reporter who made the documentary.
  •  Letter (none)
    It is morally wrong for you to use your broadcast license to engage in partisan politics, period. It is outrageous that you would cynically pressure your stations to air "Stolen Honor" a few days before the November election, let alone try to get around attempts to air different views.

    The film should not be aired. Aside from its blatantly partisan intentions, it is wildly wrong and reckless in its charges against a decorated Vietnam veteran.

    I will be taking due note of all your advertisers and the names of your affiliate stations. Should you go ahead with this shameful stunt, I will never watch your stations or patronize your advertisers until I know you are out of business.

  •  but if sinclair owns them (none)
     can't they just fire the "managers"

    this is your mission: TERMINATE the Bush presidency

    by nevadadem on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 02:55:33 PM PDT

  •  DON'T FORGET THE FCC (none)
    Be sure to click here:

    and send a personal e-mail to Michael Powell, Chairman of the FCC.  Remember, it was Powell who was leading the fight to LET broadcast station owners acquire MORE stations -- arguing that there were so many resources available for news and information these days with the Inernet -- that it didn't matter if there was greater consolidation.

    There is NO better illustration of the fallacy of his ideas than the Sinclair situation.  This must be Powell's worst nightmare....a rogue owner trying to use his holdings to promote the political fortunes of a political candidate.

    And as we clearly know, far too many people watch far too FEW sources of information and the networks and major cable channels (many of them also owned by conglomerates) have tremendous power to shape people's images of candidates and issues.

    Let Powell know DIRECTLY that Sinclair is abusing its public trust and that the FCC needs to intervene.  They probably won't, but remember too that it was a blizzard of public opposition to the FCC and Congress together which helped derail the consolidation drive.

  •  letter (none)
    My letter is being printed in the Cedar Rapids post-gazette.

    Dear Editor,

    It has come to my attention that Sinclair Broadcast Group (SBG), which owns KGAN here and KDSM in Des Moines, has directed its stations to preempt regular programming shortly before the election in order to show a movie attacking John Kerry's patriotism. To my knowledge, they don't plan to show a similar movie criticizing the president.

    SBG's CEO David Smith is free to support the candidate of his choice (and he has; giving the maximum of $2,000 to Bush), as are the rest of Sinclair's employees (search for Sinclair on However, he overreaches every time he uses his unique position as a broadcaster to air political editorials after newscasts and to hide news damaging to the president. SBG abuses the public trust. Mr. Smith sits in Maryland and cherry picks what image of the US Government we in Iowa get to see, an image that serves his own political agenda. All over air waves given to him by the people so he can better serve us.

    It's despicable--more befitting soviet-style media practices than what one expects from American broadcasters.


  •  I think the media (none)
    needs to focus on whether the Bush campaign is behind this. Or else ask Bush to ask his sinclair supporters to not force stations to run this.

    this is your mission: TERMINATE the Bush presidency

    by nevadadem on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 03:23:53 PM PDT

  •  I watched the local news on the... (none)
    Sinclair owned WB channel in Las Vegas last night.

    The advertisers were as follows:

    Oak Express and Bedroom Expressions - 702-733-8881
    (4 commercials for Oak Express.  I am almost certain that this was sold by the sales people at the local station.)
    BrakeTeam - 702-227-TEAM
    (These guys sponsored the local news.  Another one that was almost certainly sold by the local station itself.)

    The following advertisers are probably part of an overall 'cable buy' and only loosely affiliated with WB:

    The MEGA Life and Health Insurance - 1800-306-6407
    Sound Mortgage Group - 1-800-276-3986
    PrudentChoice - 1-800-315-4962
    Debt Mgt Group/Cambridge Credit - 1-800-628-2411
    Blue Hippo - 1800-644-1580

  •  Holy shit... (none)
    I think I just got into David Smith's actual voicemail, using that main number and using the company autodirectory. I left him some loooooove...about boycotting his stations and advertisers. Everyone, go give him some love...go ahead.
  •  Letter sent to KOVR (none)
    Folks, it occurs to me that we should be trying to win the affiliates to our side - all our talk has been about sticks, time for carrots. Here's a letter I just sent to KOVR - I encourage others to send it to their local affiliates. I'd also like to state that we should NOT contact advertisers yet - give them a couple of days to respond before we pull out the big guns.

    Dear KOVR 13 staff,

    It has come to the attention of a nation-wide online community, that Sinclair Broadcast Group (SBG), which owns KOVR13, has directed its stations to preempt regular programming shortly before the election in order to show a movie attacking John Kerry's patriotism. To my knowledge, they don't plan to show a similar movie criticizing the president.

    While SBG's CEO David Smith is free to support the candidate of his choice (and he has; giving the maximum of $2,000 to Bush), as are the rest of Sinclair's employees (search for Sinclair on Mr. Smith abuses the public trust when he uses his unique position as a broadcaster to air political editorials after newscasts and to hide news damaging to the president. This decision, and the pattern of edicts coming from SBG, (including an order to not show the ABC's "The Fallen" in which Ted Koppel reads the names of our fallen soldiers because it might show the Iraq war in a negative light) is despicable and more befitting soviet-style media manipulation than what one expects from American broadcasters.

    In response to these events, a nation-wide effort to boycott all Sinclair affiliates is being organized, already lists of advertisers for each Sinclair affiliate are being compiled and contacted. The purpose is to let your advertisers know that their advertising dollars are supporting an unethical and cynical attempt to subvert our democracy. As advertisers pull their ads or affiliates show that they are actively working against the order, this will also be quickly reported so that advertisers and sympathetic affiliates are not unfairly targeted.

    To give you an idea of the speed and power of this campaign, the first posting about Sinclair's action came Friday, a little after midnight, As I write this on Sunday morning, the dailykos community has:
        contacted all the major media outlets: CNN and the LA Times have already written opinion pieces condemning the order, others will follow
        contacted the decision makers at SBG and have flooded their lines with phone calls and emails
        contacted the FCC
        began contacting all Sinclair affiliates
        began contacting advertisers in each local Sinclair market
        created three websites to coordinate and publish contact info, these are online at
   (will soon move to

    Recognizing that local affiliates may not support the actions of the Maryland-based SBG, we look to you to actively work to lobby SBG to provide balance in your programing either by showing an equivalent piece that attacks Bush's record (Fahrenheit 9/11 perhaps) or to drop the whole idea altogether. Speaking for myself, I have no problem with Sinclair showing an overtly anti-Kerry propaganda piece if it wishes so long as it also shows an equally damning anti-Bush piece.

    If you would like to respond directly to the dailykos community you can either respond to me directly and I will promise to post your letter verbatim or you can sign up and post directly. There are currently three threads tracking the Sinclair campaign, the most current is:

    Two older threads are here:

    The community is the largest progressive blog, with over 400,000 visitors each day and has both tremendous reach in terms of audience, but also considerable influence over how progressives are focusing their political activism in this critical election.

    Because decisions to support or oppose any particular call to action are made by each individual reader, if you wish to avoid impacts from the boycott I recommend that you post directly and let this community know what your perspective and plans are. If you respond sincerely and honestly, you will find this community will treat you both respectfully and fairly. I think most of us recognize that local affiliates are caught between a rock and a hard place on this issue; I wish you well in responding to this challenge in a ethical and responsible way.


  •  capitalists don't let consumers decide (none)
    Chris Wallace on Fox used that deceptive "parity"  thing to blunt the Sinclair story. Somehow showing F911 on pay per view TV wherein a consumer must actually choose & pay for content is the equivalent to a consolidated media corp mandating its affiliates which show free content to air this drek at the expense of programming which its community might prefer to watch. Remember when locally owned stations to could responsive to their communities? Now a couple of rich GOP white guys decide what 1/4 of the country should see. This is hardly the beauty of capitalism. Nor, is it that much ballified "more choices" of which Michael Powell gloated.

    Is the show supposed to be news or entertainment? Would it pass muster with the news department? Is anyone going to fact check the program and report upon untruths?

    Why isn't McCain condemning this??? Nevermind.

  •  Sacramento (none)
    My email exchange with one local KOVR-TV advertiser, Dan Gamel's RV Centers:

    Dear Mr. Gamel:

    As you may have heard the Sinclair Broadcasting Group, owner KOVR-TV 13 in Sacramento, is trying to make all of their affiliates preempt their prime-time programming to run a scurrilous propaganda film against presidential candidate John Kerry.  This is a cynical, craven attempt by a broadcasting syndicate to influence an election using the public airways.

    Mr. Gamel I am writing to you because I see that you are an advertiser on  I hope that regardless of your political beliefs you agree with me that broadcasters who are entrusted with the public airways should not unduly try to influence our elections.  I would respectfully ask that you contact KOVR and ask them not to do this.  If KOVR does in fact run this propaganda film I hope you will withdraw your advertising support from KOVR.

    Finally, I need to advise you that if KOVR proceeds with airing this propaganda film that it is my intention, and the intention of many people here in the greater Sacramento area, to boycott and otherwise generate negative attention to all business that continue to advertise on KOVR and  

    I hope you will use your influence to urge KOVR to do the right thing.

    Thank you,

    [Steve in Sacto]

    cc: KOVR-TV

    Gamel replied:

    Dear [Steve in Sacto]:

    I have great respect for the passion you no doubt have for your pursuit; however, I believe that your methodology hurts your cause more than helps.

    Dan Gamel
    Chief Executive Officer
    Dan Gamel, Inc.

    My reply:

    "Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime." - George W. Bush

    Dear Mr. Gamel:

    From the moment KOVR-TV airs a propaganda film aimed at undermining our democracy forward, any advertiser that continues to financially support KOVR will be regarded as an organization hostile to our democracy by as many like-minded citizens as I can muster.

    I renew my hope that you will use your influence to help KOVR make the right decision and that you will discontinue doing business with them if they use their unique position as a major broadcaster in a craven attempt to influence an election.


    [Steve in Sacto]
    Sacramento, CA

    Y'all might want to show Dan some love and let him know we mean business.

  •  Contacting Advertisers from One who Knows... (4.00)
    I'm a sales rep fairly high up in the television industry.  So, based on my experience, here's what you should do to achieve maximum impact on Sinclair Braoadcasting:

    1. People in the towns that have Sinclair stations need to watch (or tape) the station and write down all the advertisers.  Particularly the local ones. Post them here, or wherever, with their phone numbers. (And, what they make or service if it is not obvious.)

    2. Local advertisers should be contacted by phone.  Anyone, anywhere can do this.  It need not be local.  But, be insistent. Find out (ask) who is in charge of buying the advertising time on TV.  Ask who was responsible for the ad that ran on such and such channel on such and such show.  Use that information to zero in on your target (the buyer).

    3. When you get that person's name, talk to them, if you can.  Make it clear: Don't ramble.  Don't threaten.  Tell them that this is a serious breach  of confidence for a media organization and that you won't be buying anything of theirs if they continue to buy Sinclair and Sinclair goes through this sham.  After the first few calls, that media buyer is NOT going to answer the phone.  That's okay.  Make it clear who you are and why you are calling and that you won't be buying anything from them anytime ever.

    4. If you don't get anywhere with them, call their boss and/or the owner of the place (there will probably be a lot of car dealers).  Car dealers, by the way, are great to contact because they are very sensitive to image (they are salesmen, too, after all) and if they think they're going to lose a customer (or sale) due to something a media outlet is doing, they will drop their ad campaign on that station like a hot potato.

    5. Have your friends and anyone else on the internet call them as well. Calls need not actually be local.  Just act as if you are local ("Hey, this is Joe in Columbus" for example.) A local car dealer getting twenty calls in one morning is going to panic that dealer. He will immediately call his Sinclair AE, ask what in hell is going on, and tell him (or her)to pull his spots.  That's what we want.

    6. Just like the Taste Nazis who hassle advertisers over Howard Stern, this is your right to complain.  Hell, it's your duty.   And you should do it loudly and often.  One person working a local market with a phone can cripple their locale sales department.  They will scream like stuck pigs.  Management will get the idea real quick that this is a stupid move, no matter which whoremonger ordered it.  Believe me.

    Now, get to work.

    7) Oh wouldn't hurt to call the local paper and tell them that a boycott of J&J Motors is starting because of their advertising on Sinclair.  After all, advertising works!

  •  Sinclair's Wall Street Analysts (none)
    someone on another thread suggested we reach out to the wall street analysts that cover Sinclair. These guys are fairly objective in the sense that if they determine a business decision is going to cost a company money, they will criticize it in published research reports. Investors won't tolerate much of that.

    With that in mind, here are the analysts who cover Sinclair (SBGI). Thanks to google and some other companies in the same sector for their handy phone numbers & email addresses :)

    Victor Miller, Bear Stearns & Co. - 212-272-4238

    Paul Sweeney, Credit Suisse First Boston Corporation - 212-325-9024

    Andrew ("Drew") Marcus, Deutsche Banc - 203-863-2361

    Richard Rosenstein, Goldman Sachs & Co. - 212-902-6718

    Sean Butson, Legg Mason Wood - (410) 454-5917 (can't find one but i'm guessing its

    William ("Bill") Meyers, Lehman Brothers - (212) 526-6011

    James ("Jim") Boyle, Wachovia - (212) 891-5038

  •  Contact info for MSNBC (none)
    NBC TV
    Phone: 212-664-4444  
    Fax: 212-664-4426

    Phone: 201-735-2622  
    Fax: 201-735-6244

    Phone: 201-583-5000  
    Fax: 201-583-5453

  •  remember! The *affiliates* are NOT our enemies (none)
    ...until we find out otherwise...Remember that Sinclair is forcing their affiliates to play this propaganda piece. Approach the affiliates as potential allies - we want them fighting on our side.

    This goes double for advertisers - assume they are on our side - we are, after all fighting for democracy, right? Approach them with respect and consideration for their very real economic interests (no one likes to have to cancel an ad campaign - remember that it screws up their business). They have a very legitimate reason for not canceling their ads - and importantly, we have a more important reason they should cancel their ads if the local affiliates don't fight this order. Try honey first, follow with vinegar.

    ...and if we find out that the affiliates have no spine or are so partisan that the can't see that this is an attack on our democracy, THEN we can turn up the heat on them, their advertisers, local papers, etc. But until they have a time to react, work on the organizational stuff that we will need to hit them hard: find out, and post, contact info for local media, all of their advertisers. Compose letters and plan for picketing etc.

    I'm all for pushing hard, but don't let it spin out of control. Controlled fury.

    [edited and cross posted from KOVR thread]

  •  Hardball comment (none)
    Dear Hardball,

    I was extremely disappointed in your coverage of Friday night's second Presidential debate, because of the composition of the panels you organized.

    First off, I didn't find it appropriate to have the ex lawyer of the Bush campaign on the panel, because of the inherent bias and his inevitable favoring of Bush to the detriment of Kerry. Given the orgy of post-debate spin coming from the two campaigns, I would have preferred that the pre-debate panel be made up of non-partisan journalists or at least of balance of left- and right-leaning journalists. Should you have wanted to hear the views of Mr. Ginsberg, you could have interviewed him; including him on the panel shows bias. It was apparent to me and other viewers that he was charged by the Republican side to use certain descriptive words to describe the performance of the two candidates. Most notably, he used the word "haughty" to describe John Kerry's performance - an adjective used by Karen Hughes minutes later in post-debate interviews on other networks.

    Second, in your post-debate coverage, you judged Bush the winner, discounting the 75-25 advantage to Kerry of your web site poll, and what was viewed at least on a round-by-round basis as a Bush defeat by Kerry in Keith Olbermann's analysis.

    Third, your invited guests post-debate leaned Republican. There were more Republican than Democratic voices heard.

    Separately, Chris Matthews completely overlooked Bush's overly aggressive responses and failure to follow the directions of the moderator, rudely interrupting Mr. Gibson's effort to formulate a follow-up question to Mr. Bush. In the opinion of many Democrats, Mr. Matthew's ad-nauseum incessant repeating of Howard Dean's "scream" speech played a role in the decline of the candidate. It would be only fitting for Bush's high-octane outbursts to be analyzed at least 10% as much.

    I would greatly appreciate your reflection on these points and make an effort to balance your coverage to give both sides a fair treatment.

    Thank you for your attention.

  •  Here are the websites for all Sinclair stations (none)
    Unfortunately -- I went to about 10 of them.  None of them post email addresses.  There are only snailmail addresses and webmail forms, of course.

    If anyone can use them, here they are:

    A true patriot is one who will defend his country against its government.

    by ducque on Sun Oct 10, 2004 at 08:59:15 PM PDT

  •  What methodology would he approve of? (none)
    A consumer boycott is peaceful, market driven and based on comsumer choice.  What else would he suggest?  Buying his RVs and supporting Bush, I guess...


  •  DeFeo? (none)
    Chuck DeFeo is the electronic campaign manager for the Bush campaign.  Is he any relation to Joe DeFeo of Sinclair Broadcasting?  More Bush/Media nepotism at work?
  •  IF NBC becomes a GOP outlet.. (none)

    Then just imagine what will happen to the hispanic vote, given that NBC owns the second largest hispanic TV network in the USA...if not the world.

    Just thinkin' about the future...

  •  Contact Institutional Holders (none)
    These guys hold the big amounts of stock and can have an impact quickly:

    Earnest Partners LLC    4,946,278    5.77   
    Gamco Investors Inc    3,640,000    4.25   
    Morgan Stanley    3,004,303    3.51   
    Westfield Capital Management Company    2,616,950    3.05
    Neuberger Berman, LLC    2,266,809    2.65   
    Putnam Investment Management, LLC    2,081,861    2.43
    Perry Corp.    1,911,452    2.23   
    Barclays Bank Plc    1,801,161    2.1   
    Blackrock Inc.    1,428,435    1.67   
    Janus Capital Management, LLC    1,417,887 1.66   

    I will be adding contact info soon.

  •  affiliates contact tool (none)
    If you know who your local Sinclair affiliate is and don't want to send a message off the website contact form (lord knows where those go, right?), the Parents Television Council has thoughtfully come up with a search tool.

    Simply enter the city and state and you get the station general manager, their direct e-mail address and phone number.

    I'm sure the right-wing PTC never thought this tool would be used by a bunch of liberals!

  •  Suggestions for complaints (none)
    If you e-mail the media or Sinclair and its affiliates complaining about Stolen Honor, I have two suggestions:

    1.  Be sure to use the phrase "illegal in-kind contribution of political advertising."  This is what the Kerry campaign has seized on, so we need to get it burned into the minds of readers.

    2.  You should cc: the letter to the following:

    Chairman Michael K. Powell <>, Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy <>, Commissioner Michael J. Copps <>, Commissioner Kevin J. Martin <>, Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein <>, FCC Political Matters <>.

    -- "Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."--Sam Adams&l

    by Otter on Mon Oct 11, 2004 at 02:20:10 PM PDT

  •  Advertiser database has been set up (none)
    A database has been set up that contains all of the affiliates (plus an extra one for national advertisers), and a listing of each advertiser for the affiliates.

    The affiliates have all been enterned, but I need YOU to enter the known advertisers.

    You can find the database here:

  •  My email (none)
    This is a heads up to let you know that hundreds of thousands of online
    activists are about to unleash an almightly can of boycott whoop-ass on
    SBGI, due to their directive to their member stations to air the
    anti-Kerry propaganda piece "Stolen Honor" days before the presidential
    election.  Sinclair's management is the very same that saw fit to blackout
    Ted Koppel's respectful reading of the names of our fallen soldiers in

    Our boycott will extend to their advertisers, and their institutional

    The smart money will know what to do.. what about you?

    by pawlr on Mon Oct 11, 2004 at 10:38:04 PM PDT

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