Stand  by it. No apologies.

Either ignore the whole thing cuz it's dying or

Make Lynne apologize for being ashamed of her daughter.

here we go again..........

was going to post about disagreeing with this approach. instead, let's move on people. :)

Why can't you?  Listen to Kerry.  He's talkin about jobs and the draft.  Karl Rove just got hauled in front of the grand jury for 2.5 hours.  Iraq is a complete mess and CNN is covering it! The news cycle is with us.  So stop whining.  

It was NOT.  She is an OPENLY gay PUBLIC FIGURE serving a leading role in her father's campaign for another term (I will NOT say "reelection")!

The ONLY thing this whole episode shows is how low the Republican party is willing to sink to win elections.  They betray their fundamental bigotry towards gays and lesbians (and I have some standing to talk about this, as I am myself gay (and so is my boyfriend! :-P) by implying that merely mentioning that Mary Cheney is lesbian is some kind of insult.  Huh?

I can't claim to know what goes through Mary Cheney's head--I would never want to be in her position anyway, deeply involved in GOP politics.  But I am offended that Lynne "Lesbian Erotica" Cheney and her husband are FAKE offended.  Time and again Bush and Cheney et al have shown they will repeat any lie again and again if it helps them politically.  I know in my gut that this is precisely what the Cheneys are doing, and quite frankly it is sickening.  They are truly empty shells with no internal moral compass.

This is a total act, folks.  Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT fall for this.

Cuz you couldn't have posted here,  here, here,  here, here, here, here, here, here, here, or here,
here, here or any of the other 50,003 diaries we've had on this topic already!
Thanks for bringing this up!!!
/snark

Meh.

Kerry isn't running to be a gay activist, he's running to win. You don't win by letting the media get distracted.

The reason I bring it up is that my wife -- who's as committed to Kerry as I am, but isn't an activist and doesn't read blogs -- has told me over and over the last 24 hours that what Kerry said was wrong, not because the Cheneys could be embarrassed, not because it's good or bad for gays or partisans or anyone else, but because it's rude to use the other candidate's relatives to make a point.

We know the Cheneys are hypocrites. And we know there's an element of advantage if we can slyly draw attention to their hypocrisy.  But this is an instance where the candidate himself drawing attention to it was a mistake.  (Remember the West Wing's "I'm a human starting pistol"? There are things you leave to subordinates. This should have been one.

We will not win this fight on this turf, because by being the one who brought her up Kerry doesn't have the high ground. We need the fight to end, give up the bit of ground, and train the guns on the fights we will win.

Look, if there had been a debate discussion about (let us say) the study habits of college students, in 1996, it would have been a bit rude for Bob Dole to use Clinton's daughter as an example of a college student who's under a lot of pressure from the social atmospheres in college.  Not wrong, mind you, just rude.  (Perfectly okay for him to comment on it if Bill brought it up, of course.) There are other ways to make the point.  It's not a huge gaffe, it's a little one.  Normally no one would make a deal out of it.

And clearly Rove is flogging it.  But the reason the networks are chanting it over and over isn't that they're in the tank, it's that the story has the word "lesbian" in it.  The press gets to blow it all out of proportion because when men see that word, they think 'hot girl-girl sex' and pay more attention to the advertisers.  They want it to be a story.  It requires additional effort to put the distraction down and get people to focus back on the real issues of the debate.

If the MC story goes away today and we see more of Bush's gaffe on UBL, then I'm wrong and Kerry shouldn't say this. But if we go into the weekend hearing Lynne Cheney sound like an outraged mother protecting her daughter, it does not matter whether Kerry was justified. It doesn't matter whether he was right. Because he is coming across to mothers like an insensitive clod, scoring political points with other people's children, whether that's a fair represnentation or not.

I stand by it. He should put the issue down. His "trying" comment was weak.

I've looked through CNN, MSNBC, even the Washington Times, and none of them pay as much attention to Mary Cheney as the diarists on Daily Kos.

The statement Kerry issued earlier, that he intended the remark to compliment the Cheneys, is good enough for me and will probably be good enough for swing voters too.

Kerry should stand by the statement
Fact Chaney brought it up first.
Fact when edwards discussed this issue in the VP debates chaney had no problem with it then
Fact Mary Chaney worked as a Gay advocate at Coors.
Mrs Edwards said it best. The family is ashamed of their daughter. If Lynn Chaney's reason for being upset is that it will embarass the family with their base, she needs to confront her base. Either they really accept their daughter being gay or they do not. If they accept it then it should be no more embarassing then the color of her hair. This should be an oppurtunity to have a discussion with the repug base about homosexuality. Instead she cries "foul" and complains.