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Allawi, the interim prime minister blamed U.S.-led coalition forces Tuesday for "great negligence" in the ambush that killed about 50 American-trained soldiers, and a U.S. airstrike in Fallujah killed an aide to Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the military said.

This is a BIG DEAL.  Spread the word now.

AP Wire here:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=2&u=/ap/20041026/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ir aq

Originally posted to JustWinBaby on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:14 AM PDT.

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  •  but... but... but... (4.00)
    How can we disrespect our allies by pointing out when they disagree with us!?!

    My head is spinning. As usual.

    "George Bush has no strategy for Iraq.  I do." - John Kerry, 9/20/04

    by thirdparty on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:14:13 AM PDT

  •  Uh oh... (none)
    ... the puppet is misbehaving.

    I never lie. I willfully engage in a campaign of misinformation. -- Fox Mulder

    by Page van der Linden on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:14:17 AM PDT

  •  Poor W (4.00)
    Put a guy in power, and you can't trust him to keep licking your boots.  Karl needs to call him & remind him to stay on message.
  •  This is a BIG DEAL (4.00)
    This Allawi quote is important because it could cause Bush campaign to be on the defensive for the third straight day.  Please hype wherever you can.
  •  This is great (4.00)
    While I can't quote the source, someone reported that Allawi's speach with Bush was written by the administration.  I am guessing he was a bit perturbed by that.

    Now, Allawi is chomping at the bit and seperating himself politically from Bush.  Allawi is probably thinking about the upcoming election and is looking to broaded his political base.  God I love politics.

    If I didn't read and think for myself, I could be a Republican

    by bonddad on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:19:07 AM PDT

    •  Politico-diplomatic calculation (none)
      Allawi has spent the last 30 years in the West. He must see the way the wind blows and sends a message to the incoming Democratic administration that he's ready to work with President John Kerry.

      In fact he's desperate to be in the good graces of Washington, because that's all he's got right now.

      •  He's playing a dangerous game (none)

        Regardless of the electoral outcome, he has at least three more months of George W. Bush having the ability to get even with him.

        Terrorists smell weakness - That's why they attacked when Bush was president

        by cskendrick on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:45:09 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Not the Administration (none)
      It was written by the BC04 campaign. This has been acknowleged by BC04 and the White House.
    •  Probably, But There's More To It (none)
      "Allawi is probably thinking about the upcoming election and is looking to broaded his political base."

      Allawi is probably also thinking about saving his ass, and considering that the people responsible for that massacre of the 49 Iraqi NGs could be part of his security detail.

      This isn't just politics, it's a matter of personal survival.

      Canis lupis packs
      And herds of chelonians
      Spell doom for Dim Son

      by JJB on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:52:37 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Doesn't want to see the inside of a car trunk? (none)
        That's where Diem wound up.

        But does breaking with Bush now save his ass, or burn it?

        Bushism repeats itself; the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.

        by litho on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:22:40 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Good Question (none)
          I'm not sure he knows, but maybe he's decided he's better off with someone who can't possibly be as incompetent as Bush.

          Canis lupis packs
          And herds of chelonians
          Spell doom for Dim Son

          by JJB on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:55:28 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  be sure and rate up the attached . . . (none)
    story that broke 20 minutes ago (in the box) re Kerry's latest criticisms about Bush's 380 ton fuck-up ... right now it's pretty good 4.11 -- KEEP THEM BOTH HIGH!!!
  •  rate at a 5 on yahoo news. (none)
    keep it on the front page
  •  Doesn't Allawi know there's a fucking (4.00)
    election going on!?"
              - George W. Bush

    November 2: We're hacking up a hairball.

    by perro amarillo on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:20:02 AM PDT

  •  Vote it up on yahoo! (none)
    First, disrespecting the US. Who's next, Poland?
  •  correction, sorry . . . (none)
    the new Kerry comment story currently has a 4.40 rating.  Come on rate up both stories!!
  •  And the Hits just keep on coming... (none)
  •  List of people/entities out to 'get' Bush today: (4.00)
    Mohammed El-Baradei
    Iyad Allawi
    The Headlines in the Newspapers
    Consumer Confidence Statistics
    Dick Cheney ("remarkable success")
    The GOP Platform (anti-civil unions)
    The Cleveland Plain-Dealer (refused to endorse)
    Bruce Springsteen (in Cleveland on election eve)
    Bubba
    All the polls except Gallup
    Facts

    and...

    John Motherfucking Kerry.

    "George Bush has no strategy for Iraq.  I do." - John Kerry, 9/20/04

    by thirdparty on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:23:26 AM PDT

  •  George Bush (none)
    and the Republicans got all upset because Kerry was disrespecting Allawi when Kerry claimed that he was painting a rosier picture in Iraq than that was actually there.

    Now we got Allawi accusing us our troops of "great negligence."   Man f*ck him.  He wasn't even elected to his post.

    Bush has a choice, he can either support this thug or he can support our troops.

    "¡Viva la causa!" -Cesar Chavez (1927-1993)-

    by EMKennedyLucio on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:23:49 AM PDT

  •  When you've lost the Iraqi puppet government... (4.00)
    First Pat Robertson acts to distance himself from Bush, now Allawi? Looks like somebody is expecting that he'll have a new administration to deal with pretty soon!

    This space for rent.

    by YT on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:25:21 AM PDT

  •  WHY DOES ALLAWI (4.00)
    hate America???  Did he not get Dick Cheney's talking points today?  
  •  Allawi Blames Ambush on coalition 'Negligence' (none)
    It is on the homepage of http://www.abcnews.com

    Iraq's interim prime minister blamed U.S.-led coalition forces Tuesday for "great negligence" in the ambush that killed about 50 American-trained soldiers,
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=199053

  •  The negligence on the part of our command in Iraq (none)
    ... extends not only to Iraqi military, but also to protecting our own.

    This story is inextricably linked to that of the 18 soldiers who refused the fuel delivery mission on one of the most dangerous roads in Iraq because they were driving broken-down, unarmored fuel trucks without any kind of armored or helicopter escort.

    It underscores the recurring theme of "not enough troops to do the job" that has reared its head this week also in relation to the Al Qaqaa missing explosives story.

    There aren't enough troops to defend our own troops, newly-trained Iraqi troops, or weapons stockpiles.

    It's a monumental fiasco... incompetence on an unmeasurable scale.

    And how do Iraqis feel upon witnessing the execution of 50 of their fello, unarmed citizens essentially sent ot their deaths on one of the most dangerous roads in the country?

    They fell like Allawi does -- incredibly angry and betrayed.

    And rightly so.

  •  Danger, Danger Will Robinson (none)
    I'd advise being very careful on how we raise awareness of this comment.

    This is a potential watershed event -- Allawi, a crony but an Iraqi, breaking with his patrons.

    It is also a possible trigger for a massive unsurge in hostility toward Coalition forces, if this gets out of hand.

    A lot of people's friends and relatives are over in the sandbox right now.

    They are all in danger if there is a massive degradation in the Iraq situation.

    If I, a Democrat, take issue with excessive fist-pumping about Iraq falling to pieces, even if I think (a) that's going to happen and (b) it may be happening right before our eyes, how do you think independent and GOP voters are going to react?

    Send emails, contact media, let people make up their own minds.

    But please remember - about half the country knows someone who is or has been in Iraq.

    None of them are going to approve of a hurrah accompanying news of a meltdown.

    PS - forgot to mention that my brother is over there, right now.

    Terrorists smell weakness - That's why they attacked when Bush was president

    by cskendrick on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:42:50 AM PDT

    •  Point taken... (none)
      But it is relevant to the extent that it points out continued incompetence of this administration in regard to the execution of the war in Iraq.

      See my post, above.

      This story is inextricably tied to other recent news events emananting from Iraq.

      •  Delivering the Truth (none)
        Some people like their pizza without anchovies.

        That's all I am saying.

        We need to be aware that this is not a good moment to wax triumphant.

        As for Declarative, demanding, wrathful, righteous, indignant

        Oh, yeah. Lay it on thick.

        Terrorists smell weakness - That's why they attacked when Bush was president

        by cskendrick on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 10:00:50 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  This isn't fist-pumping (none)
      Nobody is pumping fists at the deaths of American soldiers or Iraqi soldiers. We are simply gratified that somebody (in this case Allawi) actually told the TRUTH about what went wrong in the attack on 50 Iraqi soldiers. Allawi said exactly what John Kerry told Chris Matthews yesterday -- that we should have protected those soldiers better.

      There is nothing offensive about pointing out the truth. Nobody here takes comfort in death in Iraq. That death is the whole reason we HATE this pointless war. But the more truth comes out, the more likely that these GOP and Independent voters might wake up to the fact that Bush is incompetent and leading us to ruin.

    •  Family in Iraq (none)
      Two of my cousins have been in Iraq, one of which has come back permanently disabled in a roadside attack.  They need to get our troops the hell out of there; it's bad now and it looks from the outside like it'll get much worse.  If I've calculated correctly, about 10% of the men and women who go over there will come back either in a (hidden for wingers' comfort) body bag or disabled.  And for no good fucking reason.  I'm angry that my cousin is disabled, but I'm livid that Rumsfeld, Rice, etc. didn't think it mattered to secure the explosives depot which may be where all the damned roadside bomb materiel came from.
      •  Sincere Sympathies for your Cousin (none)
        A colleague of mine asked if I thought we would ever quit Iraq if Bush were re-elected.

        I answered: The clock is already ticking. The moment a more threatening war comes up, the legions will be redeployed elsewhere...if we can do so in time.

        It's not a question of if, but when a war of NON-choice comes along.

        I also added:

        Often, Bush supporters will say 'Better we fight over there, than over here!'.

        The thing is, so long as we are fighting over there, we cannot defend ourselves over here.

        That last point was well-taken by my colleague...who just happens to be Republican.

        Terrorists smell weakness - That's why they attacked when Bush was president

        by cskendrick on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:54:22 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Even a broken clock is right twice a day (4.00)
    I wouldn't trust Allawi as far as I could throw Chalabi. Which isn't very far. But it's hard to lie all the time, and lie consistently, especially when you don't have Bush-Cheney 04 aides supplying you with speeches all of the time.

    So I'm not surprised that Allawi forget the "damn these terrorist killers" line and slipped into a little truth about how exactly these Iraqi soldiers could be transported with no weapons or protection.

  •  Why Does Allawi Hate America? (4.00)
    Has Chalabi been rehabilitated yet?

    We the undersigned urge you to support Federal funding for research using human pluripotent stem cells. -80 Nobel Laureates to Pres. Bush

    by easong on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:46:15 AM PDT

  •  Maybe Allawi saw GOP internal numbers . . . (none)
    and is trying to create some separation for himself.  (half joking)
    •  Exactly, no joke (none)
      Allawi is distancing himself from Bush because he senses that Kerry is going to win.

      After November 3, watch for Allawi to say kind things about the prospect of a Kerry administration and the war in Iraq.

      Allawi is also trying to distance himself from Bush in order to gain whatever legitimacy he can muster.  What an appropriate time, when Bush cannot retaliate  by replacing Allawi.

      The revolution starts now--in your own back yard, in your own home town

      by TarheelDem on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 09:59:58 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Whoops. (none)
    Guess the White House didn't write this speech for him.
  •  Good move. Good Time. Good Place. (none)
    Allawi is a smart guy. Criticism of the Bush administration will create distance from the Bush camp if/when he loses but also show the Iraqi's he's not just a puppet.  Good move. Good time. Good place.
    •  asdf (none)
      Allawi is a smart guy.

      Maybe. For sure he is an ex-Baathist, CIA killer thug.

      I think folks are right, he's probably auditioning Kerry for a continued starring role in the Baghdad Nightmare Puppet Show. Let's hope John Boy is smart enough to see him for who he is.

      Bushism repeats itself; the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.

      by litho on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:31:27 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  IS this more revealing than the polls (none)
     in determining who is really projected to win the election?
  •  Breaking news from the white house (4.00)

    Mr. Chalabhi Elected Interim Prime Minister

    October 26, Baghdad: GOPTV is reporting that secret elections were held by the Iraqi governing council and Mr. Chalabhi has been elected the interim-Prime Minister by a unanimous decision.  The governing council voted against Mr. Allawi sighting his opposition to a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage as a key issue. They also mentioned that they disagree with his position of opposing the first Gulf War.  Many brave Iraqi's died in that war and it seems the Iraqi Republican Gaurd Veterans for Truth's campaign was successful. The governing council have rejected Mr. Allawi's message of faith and chosen Mr. Chalabhi to lead the country through this troubling time.

    Thats all from Baghdad folks, Once again, Mr. Chalabhi has been unanimously elected the Interim-Prime Minister.  I am Carl Cameron reporting yet another fake news story.

  •  jiminy cricket !!! (none)
    pinocchio has become a real boy.
  •  Like rats (none)
    from a sinking ship. What next? Will Bush now blame Mess-o-Potamia on Jerry Bremer?
  •  What the freepers are saying (4.00)
    I went over to freerepublic.com to see if they had picked up this story.

    Sure enough, Faux News has the story, so the freepers picked up on it.

    Some quotes:

    "After Allawi's visit to Washington a few weeks ago, I was really starting to like him. Now, I don't know."

    "Something STINKS about this story."

    "You know, [Allawi's] going to blame the Coalition for everything that goes wrong from now on. I still think we would have been a lot better off with Chalabi in charge."

    Between this story and the missing explosives story, they're kind of stressed out over there.

    I never lie. I willfully engage in a campaign of misinformation. -- Fox Mulder

    by Page van der Linden on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 10:47:03 AM PDT

  •  Beat me to it (none)
    Thsi dovetials nicely with the explosives story...

    http://toughenough.org

    by Tough on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 10:50:16 AM PDT

  •  drip (none)
    DRIP DRIP DRIP!!!!!!Keep it coming!!!!!!!

    Why do liberals hate America?

    by kerry on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 06:35:20 PM PDT

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