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Terrorist Strategy 101: a quiz

Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 10:57:00 PM PDT

(From the diaries -- kos)

Instructions. For Questions 1 and 2, assume you are a violent extremist. In other words, there is some issue (it doesn't really matter what) for which you are willing to take up arms and kill people, even innocent people.

Question 1: What is the first and biggest obstacle between you and victory?

If you answered "People on the other side of my issue," go sit in the corner. That answer is completely wrong. If you assume terrorists think that way, everything they do will seem like total insanity.

The first and biggest obstacle to your victory is that the vast majority of the people who sympathize with your issue are not violent extremists. They may agree with you in principle. They may even sound like violent extremists late at night over their beverage of choice. But when the hammer comes down, they won't be there. There are weeds in the garden and final exams coming up and deadlines at the office. Good luck with that car bombing. Call me next time, maybe things will have settled down by then.

Most people, most of the time, just want to get along. They'll accept a little inconvenience, ignore a few insults, and smile at people they hate if it allows them to get on with their lives. Most people on both sides of your issue just wish the issue would go away. If you're not careful, those apathetic majorities will get together and craft a compromise. And where's your revolution then?

So your first goal as a violent extremist is not to kill your enemies, but to radicalize the apathetic majority on your side of the issue. If everyone becomes a violent extremist, then you (as one of the early violent extremists) are a leader of consequence. Conversely, if a reasonable compromise is worked out, you are a nuisance.

Question 2: In radicalizing your sympathizers, who is your best ally?

No points awarded for "the media" or "sympathetic foreign governments". In radicalizing your apathetic sympathizers, you have no better ally than the violent extremists on the other side . Only they can convince your people that compromise is impossible. Only they can raise your countrymen's level of fear and despair to the point that large numbers are willing to take up arms and follow your lead. A few blown up apartment buildings and dead schoolchildren will get you more recruits than the best revolutionary tracts ever written.

Perversely, this means that you are the best ally of the extremists on the other side. That doesn't mean you love or even talk to each other -- they are, after all, vile and despicable demons. But at this stage in the process your interests align. Both of you want to invert the bell curve, to flatten out that big hump in the middle and drive people to the edges. That's why extremists come in pairs: Caesar and Pompey, the Nazis and the Communists, Sharon and Arafat, Bush and Bin Laden. Each side needs a demonic opposite in order to galvanize its supporters.

Naive observers frequently decry the apparent counter-productivity of extremist attacks. Don't the leaders of Hamas understand that every suicide bombing makes the Israelis that much more determined not to give the Palestinians a state? Don't they realize that the Israeli government will strike back even harder, and inflict even more suffering on the Palestinian people? Of course they do; they're not idiots. The Israeli response is exactly what they're counting on. More airstrikes, more repression, more poverty -- fewer opportunities for normal life to get in the way of the Great Struggle.

The cycle of violence may be vicious, but it is not pointless. Each round of strike-and-counterstrike makes the political center less tenable. The surviving radical leaders on each side energize their respective bases and cement their respective holds on power. The first round of the playoffs is always the two extremes against the center. Only after the center is vanquished will you meet your radical counterparts in the championship round.

Question 3: What is Bin Laden's ultimate goal?

This is an easy one. Bin Laden has been very explicit: He wants a return of the Caliphate. In other words, he wants a re-unified Islamic nation stretching from Indonesia to Morocco, governed by leaders faithful to the Koran.

This goal is quite popular in the Islamic world. The Muslim man-in-the-street knows his history: When the Dar al-Islam was unified, it was the most feared empire in the world. Baghdad, the home of the Caliph, was the center of civilization, leading the world in learning and artistry as well as power. (Europe may well have lost its classical heritage if Muslim libraries hadn't preserved Greek manuscripts through the Dark Ages. Just about any English word beginning with al refers to an Islamic invention: algebra, algorithm, alchemy, and even alcohol -- which was an Arabian process for distilling perfumes long before the West started using it to make hard liquor). Who wouldn't want that back?

Well, for starters, the current rulers of the two dozen or so nations of the Dar al-Islam wouldn't want the Caliphate back. They've got a cushy deal and they know it: They run a very profitable gas station for the West. Keep the people in check, keep the price of oil low enough not to wreck the Western economies, don't piss off the United States badly enough to bring the troops in, and they're set.

These leaders are Bin Laden's near enemies. (That list of near enemies included Saddam Hussein when he was in power.) The far enemy is the power that backs them all up: the United States. (You may look askance at the assertion that the US was backing up Saddam's Iraq. But Saddam became our enemy only when he began to unite other nations (i.e., Kuwait) under his rule. In the Reagan years, when Iran was threatening to extend its boundaries at Iraq's expense, Saddam was our friend.)

Question 4: What is Bin Laden's immediate goal?

If you've been paying attention, you should get this one right: His immediate goal is to radicalize the hundreds of millions of Muslims who sympathize with the vision of a restored Caliphate, but have better things to do with their lives than join the jihad. A particular problem for Bin Laden are all the Muslims who think that they can find an acceptable place for themselves in a world order dominated by the United States.

I won't insult your intelligence by asking you who his best allies are in reaching this goal: President Bush, obviously, and all of the neo-conservatives in the Pentagon who push for the most aggressive response to the terrorist threat. Also the Christian leaders like Franklin (son of Billy) Graham, who regularly denounce Islam in terms that look fabulous on Al Qaeda's equivalent of the locker-room bulletin board. John Ashcroft -- and anyone else who mistreats assimilating Arabs and thereby convinces them that they will never really be welcome in America -- is also an ally.

It doesn't matter how much they hate him or denounce his deeds; anyone who radicalizes Muslims is doing Bin Laden's work for him. President Bush may as well have been reading from an Al Qaeda script when he referred to the War on Terror as a "crusade". Muslims know their history and know exactly what a crusade is: Christians invade and steal your land. People who didn't believe this when they heard it from Bin Laden have now heard it from the Crusader-in-Chief.

Question 5: What was the purpose of 9/11?

No points for "To intimidate the United States into retreating from the Middle East." If the US had immediately decided to wash its hands of the Middle East, a variety of secular gangsters like Mubarak and Musharraf and Hussein would have started fighting it out amongst themselves. The odds were small that an Allah-fearing Caliph would arise from such a struggle. Whether the eventual outcome would have been good or bad for the United States is debatable, but it would have been terrible for Bin Laden.

Like all attacks in the bell-curve-inverting stage, the purpose of 9/11 was to provoke a military response. Prior to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, most Muslims had never seen a direct victim of the United States. Many have claimed that the Israelis are really American proxies, and so the Palestinians are victims of America. (Some have gone so far as to claim that the Serbians were American proxies, but that was always far-fetched.) Proxies, however, can never compete with real live American soldiers. And despite the occasional bombing of Lebanon or Syria or even Iraq, it is hard to paint the Israelis as anything more than a regional threat. Pakistanis and Indonesians may sympathize with the Palestinians in a distant sort of way, but they can't raise a credible fear of Jewish tanks rolling down the streets of Islamabad or Jakarta.

Now, thanks to President Bush and the magic of al-Jazeera, every Muslim with working eyesight has seen Muslim women and children killed or horribly disfigured by Americans. And Americans are everywhere; any one of them might be working for the CIA. American troops and ships and aircraft have a global reach. No matter where in the Dar al-Islam you may be, you could be under American attack in a matter of hours. Those screaming people on TV could be you and your family.

Question 6: What was the point of the Madrid bombing?

Trick question. The point of the Madrid bombing was exactly as it appeared: to intimidate the Spanish into taking their troops out of Iraq. And, by extension, to intimidate all the other members of Bush's coalition.

Bin Laden wants to fight Americans, because America scares his sympathizers and energizes his base. But Spaniards and Poles and Salvadorans just confuse the issue. Also, an allied presence
diminishes American expense and American casualties, both of which are key to Bin Laden's strategy.

Question 7: What is Bin Laden's long-term strategy to defeat the United States?

Some people find it hard to believe that Bin Laden can even imagine that he will defeat the United States, much less that he has a plan to do so. But he believes in miracles, and he began his military career by participating in the defeat of the once-mighty Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Bin Laden has been very clear about his strategy, which depends on the same principles that won the Soviet/Afghan War. In his taped message of October, 2004 he said (according to an al-Jazeera translation):

All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies.

This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat. All Praise is due to Allah. So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah.

In other words, he wants to draw the well paid, lavishly supplied American soldiers into wars on his territory, where he can fight cheaply. The more American troops he can attract, the more expensive the war will be, until even the economy of the United States can no longer support it.

This idea is not new. Abu-Ubayd al-Qurashi wrote in Al-Ansar in December 2002 that Al Qaeda would imitate the Vietnamese strategy of attacking the "center of gravity" of the United States. Then, the center of gravity was American popular opinion, so the real Vietnam War was fought on television. But things have changed:

A conviction has formed among the mujahedin that American public opinion is not the center of gravity in America. ... This time it is clearly apparent that the American economy is the American center of gravity. ... Supporting this penetrating strategic view is that the Disunited States of America are a mixture of nationalities, ethnic groups, and races united only by the "American Dream" or, to put it more correctly, the worship of the dollar, which they openly call "the Almighty Dollar."

Currently, the Iraq and Afghan Wars together are costing the US something like $60-80 billion a year. That's a nasty load and is one reason why our national debt is sky-rocketing, but it is still within the long-term carrying capacity of the American economy. However, this level of effort is not getting the job done in either country. More American troops and American money will ultimately be needed, particularly if Bin Laden can continue to strip away our allies. If he really wants to destroy the American economy, though, Bin Laden must widen the war into additional Middle Eastern countries.

Question 8. Why didn't Al Qaeda attack the United States before the election?

On the evening before the election, I was on a street corner waving a Kerry sign. The next guy over was waving a Bush sign. He put forward the following case: Of course Bin Laden wanted to intimidate us into leaving Iraq, of course he wanted Kerry elected, and of course he would have attacked us prior to the election if he could, but President Bush has so improved our homeland defenses and so wounded al Qaeda that Bin Laden no longer has the ability to launch a major attack inside the United States.

Let's put aside for the moment the thought that Timothy McVeigh was no genius, so you and I could probably launch a major terrorist attack in the US if we were so inclined and sufficiently determined. The sign-waver's logic fails to account for Bin Laden's goals and strategy: While Bin Laden wanted Spain to leave Iraq, he wants us to stay in. He's counting on it. Moreover, President Bush is so hated in the Islamic world that he makes a perfect foil. A Kerry victory would have required a major new propaganda effort -- and maybe another terrorist attack that Kerry would have to respond to.

So President Bush is keeping us safe in the following perverse manner: By following Bin Laden's script so perfectly up to this point, Bush has made another attack unnecessary. Since the purpose of 9/11 was to rile us up, Al Qaeda need not hit us again as long as we stay riled.

Question 9. What can we expect Bin Laden to do next?

As the Iraq War drags on, it is becoming less and less popular. The Afghan War is mostly out of the public view, but to the extent that it also drains American lives and money with no end in sight, it also is losing support among those who are paying attention. The memory of 9/11 is starting to fade, as years without an attack convince more and more Americans that we are safe.

All of these factors threaten Bin Laden's plans. If President Bush is tempted into pulling our troops and TV cameras out of Iraq, Bin Laden loses. He needs the United States to continue playing the Great Satan role, because there are many secular Muslims who still hope to fit into the globalized world economy. He needs an enemy to focus their fear and anger, and only the United States is up to the job.

What's more, if he is going to bankrupt the US economy, he needs a wider war. At this point the US military is stretched thin, so a wider war would require a draft or some other unpopular measure for swelling the ranks. The American public would have to be very, very riled to agree to such a thing.

All of this points in one direction: Another attack on the United States, probably within the next year. Ideally, the trail would lead back to some area where the US doesn't currently have troops, and where there is an attackable enemy. Iran is an obvious choice, if Bin Laden can engineer it. But Syria would work as well, and may be easier to manipulate. Egypt, Pakistan, and/or Saudi Arabia could fill the bill if the attack on the US were coupled with a revolution against the corresponding US-supported government. So, for example, an attack on the US coming from Pakistan could be synchronized with the assassination of President Musharraf to draw American troops into that country.

Where will he attack? The target needs to fulfill two criteria: First, it needs to be justifiable to an Islamic audience. Bin Laden's pre-election message was probably aimed at them rather than us, and was intended to pre-justify the next attack. From an Islamic point of view, Bin Laden has now pleaded with the American electorate to be reasonable, and has been rejected. Any attack that follows will seem all the more justified. Second, the next attack needs to empower Bin Laden's most aggressive enemies in the United States. He wants us to continue striking first and asking questions later.

It is probably hopeless to try to read Bin Laden's mind in enough detail to guess his exact target. (And there is always the worry that we will do his thinking for him or point out something he has overlooked.) Undoubtedly much will depend on the opportunities that most easily present themselves. But one class of targets seems all too obvious: red-state megachurches whose leaders have made virulently anti-Islamic statements. They are relatively undefended. They are the heart of Bush's political power base, and so can be blamed for his policies. They can easily be portrayed as enemies of Islam. And, last but not least, an attack on a church would rile American hawks like nothing else.

Question 10. What can we do?

Obviously, if we have good intelligence and good police work, we can hope to catch attackers before they kill anyone. But this approach is unsatisfying, because Al Qaeda is patient, and will keep sending attackers until one gets through. To the extent that we are able to track down Al Qaeda's leaders, including Bin Laden himself, that also works in our favor. But Al Qaeda is a movement, not the work of one man or even a small inner circle. Its ideas and strategies are widely distributed. If Bin Laden's sword falls, someone will pick it up.

To a certain extent, the logic of reprisal is irresistible. Who can sit quietly while someone repeatedly hits his face, even if he knows the attacker only wants him to strike back? Ignoring one blow just invites the next. America is not a land of Quakers and Mennonites. If attacked, it is inevitable that we will respond.

However, we need not respond with overwhelming force that kills the innocent and guilty alike. It is important that we husband and cultivate the moral capital that an attack will give us, not spend it all (and then some) in an over-reaching reprisal. This was the mistake Bush made in Iraq. The world was on our side -- yes, even France -- when we brought down the Taliban. If we had captured Bin Laden in Tora Bora and declared ourselves satisfied, we could have gained stature, even in much of the Islamic world.

We need to realize that we play to the same audience as Bin Laden: those Muslims trying to choose between the twin dreams of the Caliphate and of finding their own place in the world economy. Anything that persuades them that the world is open to them works in our favor. Anything that closes the door on them works for Bin Laden.

Most of all, we Americans need to keep a leash on our own radicals. They are not working in our interests any more than Bin Laden is working in the interests of ordinary Muslims. The extremists on both sides serve each other, not the people they claim to represent. The cycle of attack-and-reprisal strengthens radicals on both both sides at the expense of those in the middle who just want to live their lives.

In the face of the next attack, be slow to embrace radical, violent, or angry solutions. The center must hold.

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  •  Good stuff. (3.33 / 6)

      A lot of thought went into this, I recommend.

    coup d'etat n : a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force

    by greylantern on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 09:15:24 PM PDT

    •  thank you (4.00 / 270)

      Now that people can recommend diaries, are tip jars still necessary?
      •  Not necessary, but useful (none / 0)

        Mojo expires over time. If you don't get regular infusions, you lose 'trusted user' status.

        By the way, this is one of the best diaries I've ever seen on dKos.

        The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty. - John Adams

        by Malacandra on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 09:56:16 PM PDT

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        •  Many thanks (4.00 / 34)

          to you and all the other people who got this onto the Recommended list. I was just checking to see whether it had scrolled out of visibility when I noticed the promotion.
          •  Absolutely outstanding diary . (none / 0)

            I remember a CIA agent, commenting on the impending war in Afghanistan, said that if Bin Laden didn't exist, we'd invent him.

            I wish every thinking American could read this.  
            Thank you

             

            Small varmints, if you will.

            by 2lucky on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 10:54:12 PM PDT

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            •  Just like (none / 0)

              Emmanuel Goldstein in 1984

              Isn't a centrist just someone who doesn't have the balls to be a fanatic? -- Stephen Colbert

              by Muboshgu on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 11:00:54 PM PDT

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            •  instead (none / 0)

              Instead we got Zarqawi.

              ..Talk about an orwellian Omni Present Orchestrator of Evil...

              --
              Hongpong.com- Getting that special Babylon feeling

              by HongPong on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 11:52:55 PM PDT

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              •  Him, I think we made up. (none / 0)

                But he sure is magical: first killed, then merely maimed with the loss of leg, and then WHOA, he's whole, and he's beheadin'

                Sorry, I'm very cynical about the amazing Al-Zarqawi.  Seems like we've got a whole bunch of terrorists who've morphed into Saddam.  I mean Al Zarqawi.  
                The point is, we can fight them here or there.  Love how late in the game that rationale came up.  Makes me long for the mushroom-cloud- threatenin' days.  It was all so clear then.

                Small varmints, if you will.

                by 2lucky on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 01:23:48 AM PDT

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                •  You left out one thing (none / 0)

                  We have to remember that the Pentagon presented the WH with three separate plans to kills Zarqawi before the war and the WH said no.

                  As far as I'm concerned, Condi Rice as good as beheaded hostages herself.

                  Qui faciant leges ubi sola pecunia regnat? -- Petronius

                  by Karl the Idiot on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:32:34 AM PDT

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                  •  B word (none / 1)

                    Things that are critical to our understanding are the low tech lessons of Viet Nam and 9/11.  It does not take a ton of money, top scientists or intricate planning to inflict mass casualties. It doesn't take repeated mass casualty to create fear. To feed a fear frenzy, there is no need to pull off another - quoting the terrorists here - "spectacular" event.  

                    So, onto the mythical proportions of Zarqawi, the beheader.  Thanks to us, he owns the beheading brand.  Any beheading, Zarqawi's behind it.  Beheading is very low tech and yet very fear inspiring.  Put those together... well, you see where I'm going.

                    With the terror level flames fanned, especially pre-election, I believe it will take very little in this country for all out panic and terrorist in every pot hole mentality.  

                    •  A Beheading on American Soil (none / 1)

                      Would be just as effective as another 9/11. Imagine a series of kidnappings and televised beheadings right here in our back yard. Easy to accomplish, brutally effective.

                      Our children will go to bed with nightmares about the beheading boogeyman.

                      They allow themselves to be caught with documents implicating a Syrian or Iran connection.

                •  Al-Zarqawi might not exist (none / 0)

                  Both sides have an interest in blaming all the violence in Iraq on him. Bush needs an enemy, but the fundamentalists also need a leader. I think this is why there are so many video tapes of him committing attrocities where we never see his face.
              •  The Scarlet Zarqawi (none / 1)

                They seek him here, they seek him there.
                The US seeks him everywhere.
                Is he in heaven, or in hell,
                That damned elusive Zarqawi-Al?

                "My job is a decision-making job. I make a lot of decisions." GWBush, 10/3/07

                by Louise on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:12:43 AM PDT

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                •  Rewrite of your little poem (none / 0)

                  Maybe better put:

                  They seek him here, they seek him there.
                  Those yankees seek him everywhere.
                  In heaven, or hell, oh, where is he?
                  That damned elusive Zarqawi?

                  But you know that Al-Zarqawi is really Satan, don't you? You've got to have a really, really big enemy to keep the tension high. Else the sheep will start to notice that they're being shorn.

                  Ed

                  I do not belong to an organized political party -- I'm a Democrat. [Will Rogers]

                  by Ed Drone on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 08:56:37 AM PDT

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            •  This was Michael Moore's thesis (none / 0)

              in Fahrenheit 9/11, too-- that bin Laden was "invented" to help Bush get his mojo back.
              •  Got your mojo back (none / 0)

                Remember:  In the wake of that bombing, Bush stated on the campaign trail: "I hope that we can gather enough intelligence to figure out who did the act and take the necessary action... there must be a consequence."[Washington Post, 1/20/02]

                Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz later complains that by the time the new administration is in place, the Cole bombing was "stale." Defense Secretary Rumsfeld also states too much time had passed to respond. [9/11 Commission Report, 3/24/04 (B)]

            •  uh, like, they can. (4.00 / 4)

              you just have to email it to them.

              you know, there ought to be a "email this to a friend" button on stories here. it'd be a good thing.

              to dispel any previous confusion arising from the sig before this,
              i'd like to reaffirm that this account is indeed dedicated to justice.

              by Tacoma Narrows on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 05:04:45 AM PDT

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            •  I'm sending this (none / 0)

              to everyone on my email list.  Excellent diary!  

              "So long as we have enough people in this country willing to fight for their rights, we'll be called a democracy." ~Roger Baldwin

              by spyral on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 05:57:01 AM PDT

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          •  Great post (3.91 / 12)

            This line:

            However, we need not respond with overwhelming force that kills the innocent and guilty alike. It is important that we husband and cultivate the moral capital that an attack will give us, not spend it all (and then some) in an over-reaching reprisal. This was the mistake Bush made in Iraq.

            What is so difficult to understand about this that even a supposedly brilliant and knowledgable chap like Thomas Friedman fails to comprehend.

            A parable for children:

            On September 11, some angry bees flew over and stung us real bad. So with little foresight George went over there and started batting the hive with a big stick. Now angry bees are flying around everywhere.

            At a level even George can understand.

          •  Great post, however... (none / 0)

            This will NEVER happen in today's environment:

            "However, we need not respond with overwhelming force that kills the innocent and guilty alike. It is important that we husband and cultivate the moral capital that an attack will give us, not spend it all (and then some) in an over-reaching reprisal."

            We get attacked again, we're responding with overwhelming force somewhere, unfortunately.

          •  One regret. . . (none / 1)


             That this was not put on kos' front page around mid-September, then picked up and memed like hell all over the SCLM.

             This analysis is spot on and shows more insight (and plain old common sense) then all President Stupids' advisers, the CIA, and the Media Whore "analysists" put together.

             A thousand "4s" for you if I could.

             BenGoshi
            _________________

            "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

            by BenGoshi on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:11:29 AM PDT

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        •  Ditto on best diary. (none / 0)

          I hope you publish this somewhere outside the blogosphere.  This kind of analysis is desperately needed.

          Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of nonthought. -- Milan Kundera

          by Dale on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 09:36:19 AM PDT

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      •  Kudos (none / 0)

        Hit the nail right on the head.  This is what I've been telling anyone who would listen for the last year or so.

        Isn't a centrist just someone who doesn't have the balls to be a fanatic? -- Stephen Colbert

        by Muboshgu on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 10:04:44 PM PDT

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      •  This is worth sending to any (none / 0)

        reality-based friends.

        Thanks for putting it all together.

      •  This is a brilliiant analysis! (none / 0)

        Could  I persuade you write it in a way suitable for dkosopedia?
      •  Holy Mojo Batman! (none / 0)

        237 4s!  You'll have enough mojo to last until the next Democratic administration!

        Your flag lapel pin won't get you into heaven anymore... Remember, only a few dollars separate eccentric from insane...

        by wry twinger on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 11:22:37 AM PDT

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    •  I agree (none / 0)

      Well done ... I appreciate diaries that are well-written and thoughtful.
    •  Ah, to those who think Bin Laden is doomed to fail (4.00 / 5)

      You write:

      Question 7: What is Bin Laden's long-term strategy to defeat the United States?

      Some people find it hard to believe that Bin Laden can even imagine that he will defeat the United States, much less that he has a plan to do so. But he believes in miracles, and he began his military career by participating in the defeat of the once-mighty Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

      =

      May we all be reminded of that A-student lawyer in a white loincloth, South African, who went to his land of origin, wearing sandals, and commenced tossing the British out of India.

      "I don't do quagmires, and my boss doesn't do nuance."

      by SteinL on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 01:15:58 AM PDT

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      •  hold on (3.66 / 3)

        Without meaning to be pedantic it does rather seem that you just compared Bin Laden to Mahatma Ghandi.....

        That's both wrong and offensive on so many different levels I find it difficult to know where to start.

        Of course I understand your point but it may have been possible (wise?) to make it differently - don't you think?

        "The real distinction is between those who adapt their purposes to reality and those who seek to mold reality in the light of their purposes."

        by British Alcoholic on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 01:49:58 AM PDT

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        •  cut the phony indignation (3.77 / 9)

          The comparison is apt. No moral equivalence, just a proper counterexample to the proposition that bin Laden can't possibly believe he will prevail.
          •  No phony indignation here (none / 0)

            It's real.  Comparing Ghandi to bin Laden is like comparing Jesus Christ to Adoplh Hitler, and then justifying it by saying hey, they were both fabulously popular guys in their day who ended up dying for their cause.  It's just gross.  Quit it.

            If liberals hated America, they'd vote Republican.

            by Rumblelizard on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 08:33:10 AM PDT

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            •  Um...make that "Hitler" (none / 0)

              Must remember: Preview is my friend, preview is my friend....

              If liberals hated America, they'd vote Republican.

              by Rumblelizard on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 08:35:51 AM PDT

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            •  irrelevant, ethnocentric, sloppy (none / 0)

              The passsage is about why Bin Laden believes he will prevail. He is not likely to describe himself as evil. He is likely to compare himself to successful heros. These sloppy, righteous comments are all jonesing for an easy target for moral indignation, as if the author had espoused bin Laden's position in order to explain it.
          •  Well, um, no. (none / 0)

            The comparison is not apt. Gandhi used non-violence and mass peaceful resistance to win the world's support for his cause. Bin Ladin is using mass violence to piss off the center and motivate the fringes. Two very different things, strategically.
          •  I understand what you're saying, but... (none / 0)

            There are several important differences.  Ghandi did not destroy Britain, he liberated India.  He did so using a completely different mechanism, and without deceit.  If he had provoked the British into attacking the Indian people in order to increase opposition to British rule then you would have a comparison.

            As it is, you are presenting a general "one person can change the world" example, of which there are plenty, both good and bad.  In bin Laden's case, it's more of an example of one person can goad the world into changing via people's worst natures.  I think it's important not to lump visionaries like Ghandi in with murderous psychopaths like bin Laden (and Bush, for that matter).

        •  Missed the point (none / 0)

          (S)he was talking about the hubris of the big powers in the game, and how that can be yanked out from under them by insignificant little individuals who decide to rile people up.

          There's no moral equivalence, nor was any implied.

          The phrasing was perhaps unwise only in that too many people reading it are going to get worked up about whether the message is that Ghandi = bin Laden. That wasn't the message. The message is that scruffy individuals who ought to look insignificant, compared to the dominant power, can be surprisingly effective, and should be taken seriously

          "Why, a child of five could figure this out! Someone fetch me a child of five." -Groucho Marx

          by kiwifruit on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 10:37:32 PM PDT

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      •  To those who feel the US is invincible (none / 0)

        It seems like just yesterday that some wingnut proposed expelling twelve states from the union...

        Not to mention all the chit-chat about blue state secession...

        The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing George W. Bush that he was Jesus

        by Darth Cheney on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 09:05:28 AM PDT

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    •  Recommended (none / 0)

      Great Story.  I published a similar one today.
      The Terrorist in George Bush

      Out of the night that covers me, Black as the Pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.

      by Descrates on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:06:49 AM PDT

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  •  ack! (none / 0)

      Please change "moslem" to Muslim, as moslem is a slur.

    coup d'etat n : a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force

    by greylantern on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 09:23:48 PM PDT

    •  no its not (none / 0)

      its in the Qur'an, as translated by Muhammad Faraaq-i-azam Malik.

      Just wanted to point it out.

      Pattern is his who can see beyond shape: Life is his who can tell beyond words.

      by cnflght on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 09:36:54 PM PDT

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    •  checking (3.75 / 4)

      On brainyencyclopedia.com I managed to find this:

      Until recently the word was usually spelled Moslem; that spelling is now discouraged. Many English-language writers used to call Muslims "Mohamedans" or "Mohametans", meaning "followers of Mohammed", but this terminology is considered incorrect and insulting, because it is taken to imply that they worship the prophet Muhammad, contrary to the fundamental principles of Islam itself.

      So the spelling is "discouraged", but they don't say why. Maybe it's a transliteration issue, like Peking/Beijing?

      •  Honestly (none / 1)

          I couldn't tell you.  All I know is that I've had Muslim friends offended at the use of the term "moslem."  I didn't ask about it, but I've made a point not to use it.

        coup d'etat n : a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force

        by greylantern on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 10:42:57 PM PDT

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        •  No difference (none / 0)

          It's the same word, just romanised differently. Like the difference between Mao Tse-tung and Mao Zedong.
          •  Ok, (none / 0)

            Thank you.

            coup d'etat n : a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force

            by greylantern on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 11:24:29 PM PDT

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          •  Osama or Usama? n/t (none / 0)

            (0+ / 0-), (0+ / 0-), it's off to kos I go...

            by doorguy on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 11:43:47 PM PDT

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          •  Oy vey (3.66 / 3)

            I know nothing about Arabic or Chinese, but I do speak some Russian and can read Cyrillic without a problem.

            I'm also a fan of some international sports in which Russian athletes are prominent, such as figure skating.

            There are some Russian athlete's surnames that I can tell you five or six transliterations that I myself have seen!

            And in the world of international sports, where competitions happen world-wide, you sometimes get some strange transliterations because they're being transliterated into languages other than English, and some dumb reporter for AP just copied what was on the scoreboard. I once saw the great Belarussian gymnast Vitali Shcherbo's surname written as Chtcherbo. Must have been competing in France that week :-). And his female compatriot, Svetlana Boginskaya--well, in the 92 Olympics (in Spain) it was routinely written as Boguinskaia. I also once saw Boghinskaia--I can only guess that came from Romanian!

            Then there's laziness. That clump of letters at the beginning of Shcherbo's name--shch--is often written as sch. The problem is, when you write it as sch, it gets pronounced as sh which is wrong. That shch is one letter in Cyrillic. It gets pronounced like that--shch. It's the same letter in the middle of Khrushchev's name. But shch looks strange to English speakers, especially at the beginning like in Shcherbo, so an h gets dropped.

            Unlike the Chinese, who tried to codify this and issued directives, the Russians--especially the athletes whose names get mangled--are notoriously lackadasical and accomodating about it. As long as we get in the neighborhood, they don't care. I remember a story I once heard about a female Russian figure skater whose name was routinely mispronounced, and in a wink-wink sort of way. When she questioned someone about it, she was told that the mispronounciation of the first syllable of her surname produced a slang word in English, and she was told what that word meant. Apparently, she completely cracked up when she heard this, and I've heard she still laughs if you mispronounce her name in that manner. Her name? Irina Slutskaya. (It's pronounced SLOOT-ska-ya) :-)

            You bet your ass I'm bitter. And, yes, middle-america 'values' voters, you *have* been duped. Obama's right. And I'm bitter as hell.

            by ChurchofBruce on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 07:33:33 AM PDT

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            •  Pronouncing foreign names (none / 1)

              ... has never been an American strong suit. In the Viet Nam era, I heard so many mispronunciations of "Nguyen" -- that initial "ng" gets us every time -- that I wanted to scream.

              I knew a man from Kenya back in college. His name was Ndoto (I understand the Ndotos are "big" in Kenya politics to this day). I think I was one of very few in school who could get that initial "nd" sound.

              And when I go to the lunch counter and order "yeero," the guy behind the counter* says, "huh?" till I repeat it as "jie-ro" (spelled "gyro").

              Insular, ignorant folks we are, and I'm probably as insular as any, but at least I can pronounce many foreign names.

              Ed

              * except the Greek ones, who usually give me a little bit more on my order.

              I do not belong to an organized political party -- I'm a Democrat. [Will Rogers]

              by Ed Drone on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 09:08:38 AM PDT

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              •  It's not an American thing. (none / 0)

                Well, not specifically, though maybe with our lower exposure to foreign languages we're worse about it.  

                Languages have certain sound combinations that are permitted and some of them are more permissive (or just have different ones) than others.  If you never encounter a group of sounds right next to eachother then it takes a little bit of effort to say them together.  Especially if some of the sounds don't exist in your language at all!

                This is one of the reasons Japanese speakers often seem to have thick accents.  Their language has no consonant clusters, so English words that have three consontants in a row right at the beginning like "street" are very difficult.  Also, many non-native speakers of English have trouble with "r" because unlike most languages it's an approximate (i.e., "squishy") rather than trilled.  Very few languages have that kind of "r".  I think I heard that Albanian has it but I know of no others.  Similarly, other languages have sounds that are very difficult for native speakers of English.

      •  moslem (none / 0)

        is just the way egyptians say it.  It's just a pronunciation thing.  No biggy.

        If you want to say it right, it's like this:  "moos lim"  That's two o's not three, and you need to pause slightly on the "s".

        more annoying that "moslem", is the pronounciation "muzlum".
        Just so you know.

  •  Thank you (none / 0)

    I've been trying to finish 'Imperial Hubris' at the gym this week and couldn't get engaged enough.

    This brief summary is easier on the eyes and mind.

    Want more smartass? Read my blog. http://phoenix-rising-reports.blogspot.com/

    by PhoenixRising on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 09:33:06 PM PDT

  •  The Power of Nightmares (none / 0)

    If you want to see a really good documentary about how this extremist-extremist interaction plays out, you should watch The Power of Nightmares, a BBC documentary about the radical islamist militants and the neocons.
  •  Best . Diary. Ever (4.00 / 16)

    And, it deserves even wider circulation than just here.

    Op ed?  Newsweek?

    Just freaking brilliant.  So, like what do you in your day job?  If telling that is a problem DON'T ANSWER!

    You can't always tell the truth because you don't always know the truth - but you can ALWAYS be honest.

    by mattman on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 10:18:50 PM PDT

  •  Thanks (4.00 / 3)

    For all of us getting wrapped up in moral values, soul-searching, party-remaking and all that other stuff that has sprung out of the election, it's nice to get a little perspective on some of the things we should be thinking about concerning the enemies we're up against.  Despite the constant reassurances and platitudes from both sides, this is one issue that isn't going away anytime soon.  

    We can only hope that we can think rationally about these issues sometime in the future.  I could see a writing such as this one getting nowhere if you tried to bring it up in common political discourse in this country right now.  I'm not sure if I should feel sad or be scared because of that.

  •  Deep (4.00 / 3)

    Rich. Thoughtful. Thought-provoking. Rigorous. Engaging. Sober.

    You get the idea - I really like and appreciate this piece.

    "It's not about how much time we have left. It's about what we do with it."

    •  Heartwarming? (none / 0)

      I love this diary.  Your comment made me laugh for personal, nostalgic reasons. When my daughter was little, if she really wanted to see a movie, she'd give me her 6 year-old version of the ads, which usually went: "It's the heartwarming tale of..."  

      So, Pericles IS blogdom, I suppose.

      Small varmints, if you will.

      by 2lucky on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 12:46:10 AM PDT

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  •  Excellent! (none / 0)

    Nothing more to say!!
  •  Excellent article... (none / 1)

    but I think it ascribes a little too much evil geniosity to bin Laden. Yes, he wants to radicalise his base, and yes, he wants ultimately to bring about a "war of civilisations" between the US and Islam, but he just doesn't have that much control over the situation.  For example, I don't think he expected Bush to attack Iraq - that was a success beyond his wildest dreams.

    At the same time, there's no question that Bush is playing into bin Laden's hands.  Partly this is stupidity, and part is that he shares the same goal - Bush too wants a 'war of civilisations"...

    The only answer is restraint.  America must refuse to do what bin Laden wants them to do, and avoid widening the war.  Unfortunately, I think that's beyond you.  And for that, we're all going to suffer...

    Idiot/Savant
    No Right Turn - New Zealand's second-best liberal blog

    •  He's right (3.66 / 3)

      This isnt an invention of Al Qaeda or the PLO etc etc etc. What he has posted is a restatement of the ideas and methods behind terrorism and guerilla warfare. Che Guevara was the uncontested master of guerilla warfare. And Terrorism goes back over a millenia.

      The purpose of the leader of a terrorist or guerilla movement isnt to become a Castro or Arafat. It is to achieve his goals against what using any other tactic would be impossible. And there are plenty of good examples even today.

      The chechens resorted to terrorism once the world turned its lazy gaze away from Russian atrocities. It quickly refocused the eyes of the world on what Russian is doing in Chechnya. The PLO is an organisation who's ideal is the "reformation" of a state that never existed supported by governments who have kicked those people and that movement out of their nations. In the US the radical right has been using terrorism openly since the sixties all over the US and that tactic has been successful. Before McVeigh the mainstream US didnt take the far right seriously. At this moment the far right controls all three branches of the federal government.

      I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever TJ

      by cdreid on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 11:13:50 PM PDT

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      •  this is what the Russian radicals did in 1881 (none / 1)

        when they assassinated the moderate Tzar Alexander II and pushed his successors into retaliation and crackdown, because the last thing they wanted was a government willing to bend and negotiate compromises and institute reforms.

        "Don't be a janitor on the Death Star!" - Grey Lady Bast (change @ for AT to email)

        by bellatrys on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 08:01:23 AM PDT

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    •  Bush attacking Iraq was well advertised (4.00 / 3)

      Anyone paying the slightest attention to Neoconservative ambitions knew they would attack Iraq given the slightest pretext.  They've been documenting exactly this for some years before 9/11, and making their plans widely known. See the Project for a New American Century website if you have any doubt.

      Bin Laden only needed to do a minor amount of research to have a high degree of certainty of an attack on Iraq. Remember, Bush doesn't do "nuance".

    •  Can Americans ever understand how self- (4.00 / 3)

      destructive reprisal policies are?  

      Not only has Abu Ghraib destroyed our reputation, but the damage is ongoing.  The Culture page of Aljazeera reports on the theater circuit in Jordan.  

      When we reward the perpetrators of evil for their actions we invoke our own destruction.  

      •  Just to play the devil's advocate... (none / 0)

        One of the diary's arguments was that it we moderated out policies OBL would have to get us "riled up" again by another attack -- we in a backwards way supports the "fight them over their instead of fighting them over here" logic.

        Not to say that Pericles isn't correct in his analysis -- but it makes it harder to formulate a progressive response.  

        •  problem is (none / 1)

          most of the world is coming to think that we are the devil.

          I fear that the only way to internationalize the anti-extremism effort (its not a war, and it's not against terror, nor even terrorism) will be to suffer another attack and then not take reprisals.

          We have to become the victim and stop being the aggressor before others will help. And without other helping us, we will fail. Not that we can't "win" militarily, but as pericles is pointing out, the win must be ideological, and you don't win an ideological war by yourself (witness the election).

          We have to win the potential terrorist to seeing that violence does not work. Killing him does not work, because his death will give rise to others. We have to change his mind.

  •  Yes. (none / 0)

    I whole-heartedly agree with everything I've read so far. It's about 1:51am and I still have to write a paper for class at 9:30am, so I can't procrastinate long.

    Great work. Recommended.

    "When we are all guilty that will be democracy." -Albert Camus.

    by BrianL on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 10:47:37 PM PDT

  •  Damn (none / 0)

    impressive.  Thanks.  A lot.
  •  Just all around excellent, so ... (4.00 / 5)

    ...straightforward and clear and dead on the money. Every American who hasn't yet figured it out - and that is the majority - should read this in its entirety.

    The best line in this very good Diary is the last one. I am, sorry to say, not very sanguine that the nation will be in any mood to follow that advice, and we know how the NeoImps will spin it.

    Like a cyclone, imperialism spins across the globe; militarism crushes peoples and sucks their blood like a vampire. K. Liebknecht

    by Meteor Blades on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 10:48:49 PM PDT

  •  Thank you, Kos, this is truly (none / 0)

    worthy of front page status.  

    And thank you for creating this amazing place.

    Small varmints, if you will.

    by 2lucky on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 10:57:58 PM PDT

  •  Kos, here's your Guest Blogger (4.00 / 15)

    I recommend Pericles.

    Drive-by commenting is such fun!

    by galiel on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 10:58:00 PM PDT

  •  Oh, Oh, So Brilliant. (4.00 / 3)

    Well done, pericles, an excellent, intelligent, incisive and insightful breakdown.

    The only quibble I have is the nature of the next target.

    Were I directing the battle or determining the targets for Al Qaeda, I would target Houston.

    Houston is the economic heart of one of the Reddest of Red States. It is home to the President, and home to some of the heaviest concentrations of Fundamentalist Crusaders.

    It is also one of the most important economic centers in terms of Oil and Chemical industries.

    New Orleans is another one.

    The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

    by RedDan on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 11:02:57 PM PDT

    •  Tx. Monthly & the Houston scenario (none / 1)

      Texas Monthly has a long, terrific, detailed article on what a Houston attack could look like.

      To be technical, the scenario involves an attack in the petrochemical-production areas a bit outside the city, but it's damned ugly.

      Alas, Texas Monthly is extremely tight with their content so no link.

    •  wow. spectacular diary. (4.00 / 3)

      haven't read the texas monthly article mentioned above, but it makes perfect sense as a target.  it wouldn't take a whole lot of effort to make one nasty explosion- this is basically what 'failed to adequately secure chemical plants' referred to- only at a more spectacular level than blowing up some power plant in rural pennsylvania.

        just from an economic standpoint:
      -houston one of 5 largest u.s. ports
      -18 of top 100 companies headquartered there, including most of the oil majors
      -population roughly 5 million metro

      extremely vulnerable to chemical or biological attack for two other reasons: climate (hot, humid, not windy, clay-rich soil), and transportation/mobility- mass transit system new, unpopular; traffic can be horrific.  

      basically, what happens in houston stays in houston.  for a long time.  beyond that- rock, paper, scissors between dirty bomb, chemical plant complex, or refinery.

      plausible.

    •  eeeee (none / 0)


      yknow, I hadn't really thought this through, but you're very right. But...not to do their thinking for them, I think there's a much more likely target. You see, the chem and oil refineries are in thinly populated, heavily industrialized areas (where you can't go outside for weeks at a time due to air quality...but I digress). There are well-established emergency plans for that whole area. Even a massive explosion there would take out maybe a few hundred people, and those people would mostly be minority working-class folks - not really Bush's base.

      No, the better and scarier target is the Medical Center. It's very densely built up; tens of thousands stay and work there on any given day, from indigent grandmothers to hotshot surgeons. It's a major economic engine for Houston. There's a large children's hospital and a world-famous cancer research facility. There are churches scattered throughout. There's a secular university next door (my alma mater, and George P. Bush's too) - nothing better for terrifying and enraging middle class types than pictures of dead college kids (shudder). Rice also has the James Baker Institute of Foreign Policy - not quite a nest of neoimperialism, but I imagine Mr. Baker isn't real popular in the Muslim world right now either.

      Though Houston itself is generally Democratic and such an attack would probably kill more Democrats than Bush supporters, it would still be close enough to scare and anger the crusader types who live in the deep-red burbs.

      But maybe I'm just being paranoid and projecting my fear onto the places I love.

      If we eliminate the slippery slope argument, pretty soon we'll eliminate all argument and everybody will agree.

      by m3 on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 12:17:22 AM PDT

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      •  Interesting thought, though... (none / 0)

        ...one point the author made (in great detail) was that there is real potential for poisonous gasses to be released, that these gasses would kill many, many people well beyond the attack area.

        It really is a good, heavily researched article. Hope you can scare up a copy. Dunno where you are, but Texas Monthly gets around. I found a copy in a California bookstore.

      •  A megachurch is an interesting choice... (none / 0)

        ...I was always thinking a large shopping mall, myself.

        Or the World Series or Super Bowl.

        It could be a million things-that's the (scary) point.

      •  not the Medical Center (none / 0)

        That would work if the point were just to kill a lot of people. But I don't think Bin Laden is the stone cold killer our media makes him out to be. Not that he isn't a killer, but he needs to maintain his image among his followers. Targeting sick people -- and  the healers who attend them -- would be hard to justify.

        The 9/11 attacks, in addition to killing a lot of people, were highly symbolic. The WTC represented America's financial dominance and the Pentagon our military dominance.

        The oil/chemical plant idea makes more sense than the Medical Center. It draws attention to oil as America's real interest in the Middle East, and strikes at our economy.

        •  Another target that (3.50 / 2)

          a smart, economically savvy terrorist might pick would be the lock and dam system that currently prevents the Mississippi River from switching courses and flowing into the Atchafalaya River basin...

          Such a switch would be devastating to the US economy and the infrastructure of much of the South.

          The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

          by RedDan on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:12:17 AM PDT

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        •  Their Preferred Targets (none / 0)

          Remember - we're being demonized by the process. Everything done is done best if it helps draw focus on our "inferior moral values" or our attempts at financial or military dominance.

          Their alternative is to attempt to maximize our response. In the mind of much of the Arab Street, they're already justified in attacking, since our rape of Iraq has been so overly violent. Thus, attacking the American family at play (Disney? Six Flags?) would enflame the hearts of Americans. (likely would take all of 6 minutes to get both houses of congress to enact draft legislation if that happened)

    •  The most important thing (none / 0)

      Is that it would have to look good on TV, and ideally be watched to burn by the entire country for several days straight, just like last time.
    •  prolly not a church (none / 0)


      I have some doubts that he'd attack a church too. but yeah, this is one awesome diary. well done!

      I just think that average Muslims would be as pissed about someone attacking people praying in a church as average westerners are pissed at the concept of the US attacking a Mosque.

      -- We need more trees and fewer Bushes

      by Sarkasba on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:23:29 AM PDT

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      •  Except for about (none / 0)

        half of our benighted nation, who thinks that blowing up mosques is hunky dory.

        The only way to ensure a free press is to own one

        by RedDan on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:47:58 AM PDT

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        •  not moderates (none / 0)


          I think if you pressed people on it, you'd find that only the extremists would approve.

          What I was getting at is, bin Laden could not appeal to Muslim moderates by bombing a church anymore than Bush could appeal to Christian moderates by bombing a mosque.

          In either case, they would be appealing only to extremists in such an attack. They would lose support among moderates.

          -- We need more trees and fewer Bushes

          by Sarkasba on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:55:53 AM PDT

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    •  Lots of targets (none / 0)

      There are thousands of potential terrorist targets in the U.S. and elsewhere. I can see how churches would get people very angry, and help Bush, but Bush no longer needs bin Laden's help. Major cities are probably still at least as likely to get hit.

      The other thing to keep in mind is that bin Laden and al Zawahiri (the real leader) aren't just trying to provoke a response. They also want people to see them as fearless martyrs, using God's will to beat an enemy that rationally is far more powerful than they are.

      Bin Laden boasted about this in his election ad last month, when he said that America had to spend a million dollars for every one spent by al Queda. We also see it demonstrated in some of their attacks: the rubber dinghy vs. the  battleship, or five men with razorblades against the Pentagon.

    •  Idaho National Engineering and Enviro Lab (none / 0)

      It's a longshot as a target, since it's not a population center, but it is a nuclear facility, not far from a major national attraction (Yellowstone), and it's in as red a state as you're going to find. Not that hard to get to, either. And very few people around to notice you.

      Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Ben Franklin

      by mcjoan on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 09:01:44 AM PDT

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    •  New Orleans? (none / 0)

      Huh? The next major hurricane will submerge it. What international cartels are run out of New Orleans? Or is it all those paganesque, pyramid-like above-ground crypts?
    •  NO (none / 0)

      it won't be in a red state. They're already enraged. It'll be in a blue state to try and swing those of us who are advocating a more rational approach.
      •  I thought the same thing (none / 0)

        I tend to worry because my wife works in the Bechtel Building in SF.  What would happen to us peace-loving Bay Area folks if we got hit?  We'd probably flip out with rage and visions of vengeance.

        It's not something I like to think contemplate.

  •  What an awesome article (3.71 / 7)

    Without sounding condescending I must admit that I m worried about America. After 9/11 I don't think many Americans took time out to ask themselves how things had gotten to such a state. I think the Israelis suffer from the same problems. Neither nations have stopped to ask themselves why exactly it is that there are groups of people that are willing to die just to hurt them. For years the American public has been shielded from the impact US foreign policy has on the world and so I think they were not ready for the eventuality that 9/11 was. If the American public had been aware of the growing anit American sentiment in the Middle East things may have panned out differently.

    I really don't mean to paint everyone with the same brush but there is a need for Americans to appreciate how their decisions impact on the rest of the world. Now this is quite unfair as it would force you to consider the rest of us during elections rather than the hings that should be really important to you like healthcare jobs etc. Unfortunately this is the burden of being the worlds only superpower. No longer is being a superpower only about being the strongest it now also has to be about being the most understanding, most empathetic. Bin Laden is hell bent on showing the Muslim world that America is their enemy. Unfortunately so far from a Muslim perspective that is exactly what you guys are becoming. This war on terror will not be won on battlefields but in minds ( sorry for that corny line it seemed to fit).

  •  Recommended and foured up the yin yang (none / 0)

    You have said eloquently what I have been so frustratingly unable to convey since Bush first started pushing an Iraq attack.  I knew then that anti-Americanism would reach a fever pitch, that insurgents would pour in, that they would be happy to bleed us slowly and not let us get out.  I keep wondering how an idiotic, uninformed person like myself could know that, while the powers that be