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Mon Dec 20, 2004 at 07:44:45 PM PST

MSNBC is said to be preparing a new program that will feature the anchoring duo of Ron Reagan, Jr. and Monica Crowley. Crowley is a former foreign policy aide to Richard Nixon and comes to MSNBC following a stint as a Fox News political analyst.

Over the years she has also been busy writing books and magazine and newspaper articles, often about Nixon. The only problem is that her authorship, at least on one occasion, appears not to be her own work. The filching was reported at the time by Timothy Noah for Slate.

Sensational proof of plagiary below:

In August of 1999, Crowley wrote an article for the Wall Street Journal commemorating the 25th anniversary of Nixon's resignation. Four days after the article ran, the paper published the following:

"There are striking similarities in phraseology between "The Day Richard Nixon Said Goodbye," an editorial feature Monday by Monica Crowley, and a 1988 article by Paul Johnson in Commentary magazine ... Had we known of the parallels, we would not have published the article."

The similarities are indeed striking:
From Johnson's "In Praise of Richard Nixon," Commentary, October 1988:
"There was none of the personal corruption which had marked the rule of Lyndon Johnson, let alone the gross immoralities and security risks of John F. Kennedy's White House."

From Crowley's "The Day Nixon Said Goodbye," Wall Street Journal, August 9, 1999:
"There was none of the personal corruption that had marked the rule of Lyndon Johnson or the base immoralities and outrageous security risks of the Kennedy and Clinton White Houses."

Johnson:
"Nixon ... consistently underestimated the unscrupulousness of his media enemies and their willingness to sacrifice the national interest in the pursuit of their institutional vendetta."

Crowley:
"Nixon, though always suspicious of his political enemies, consistently underestimated their ruthlessness and willingness to sacrifice the national interest in the pursuit of their institutional vendetta."

Johnson:
"So great was the inequity of Nixon's downfall that future historians may well conclude he would have been justified in allowing events to take their course and in subjecting the nation to the prolonged paralysis of a public impeachment, which at least would have given him the opportunity to defend himself by due process of law. But once again his patriotism took precedence over his self-interest ..."

Crowley:
"Given the inequity of Nixon's downfall, historians may yet determine that he would have been justified in allowing events to take their course and subjecting the country to a prolonged process of impeachment, which would have given him the chance to defend himself by due process of law. His allegiance to the country, however, overrode his political self-interest."

Johnson:
Characterizes the 1960 election as "one of the most corrupt elections of modern times."

Crowley:
Characterizes the 1960 election as "one of the most corrupt elections of modern times."

[This assertion, unlike the others, has some merit, and it's possible the two arrived at the phrase independent of one another; but given the other examples cited here, that likelihood is not great.]

Johnson:
"By a curious paradox Richard Nixon was one of the very few people who emerged from the Watergate affair with credit."

Crowley:
"Ironically, Nixon was one of the few people who emerged from Watergate with credit ..."

[Johnson is British, Crowley American; why would she, on her own, use a Britishism like "with credit"?]



Slate reports that this rather blatant plagiarism was not widely disseminated at the time. Certainly Fox's journalistic standards would not preclude the hiring of such an ethically-challenged individual, and maybe MSNBC's standards are no better. But some attempt should be made to disseminate this story now and force MSNBC to defend (or even articulate) their standards.

Reagan has paid his dues at MSNBC and should not have to share this program with an avowedly right-wing hack who lacks the requisite principles for the job. Furthermore, if the network is seeking to achieve ideological balance, the last thing they need is a conservative analyst from Fox. Reagan should anchor the program himself or be paired with another independent-minded former Republican, Arianna Huffington.

Crowley needs to be challenged. It is unseemly for news professionals to be promoted with unexamined issues like this in their past. And it is dereliction on the part of the network (and news consumers, i.e. us) to ignore such a violations of the integrity of authorship. Ms. Crowley and/or the network should be required to answer this allegation and we should put their feet to the fire.

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  •  Please keep this story alive... (4.00 / 47)

    ...and recommend. Don't let them give new shows, and big contracts, to hacks like this.

    Here's some places to write. Add you own local media.

    MSNBC TV
    MSNBC.com
    Hardball
    Scarborough
    Countdown

    [I was asked to repost this from this afternoon, and I always try to accomodate]


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    by KingOneEye on Mon Dec 20, 2004 at 07:39:00 PM PST

  •  I'll let others judge veracity (none / 0)

    But worth a second look.

    Looks like a lot of work went into this diary

    kj

  •  Outstanding work (none / 0)

    You guys are sharp tonight.
  •  "Ah got just one question for you, kid.... (4.00 / 3)

    ...have you rehabilitated yourself?"

    I misread you the first time through and thought you said this Crowley person had done her little "great minds write alike" schtick in 1988, which from her picture would have had her barely out of college. One "mistake" in youth can perhaps be forgiven.

    On second pass I note she committed her theft of intellectual property just five years ago. Uh oh.

    Pulling such a stunt, AND getting busted for it by the WSJ, should have been enough to send her in search of a new career, possibly scrubbing floors with hope of someday working up to dishwasher. Why do all these networks feel obliged to keep recycling the same boring twits anyway?

    One all-liberal show. What a concept. And a great catch KOE, thanks.

    Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?

    by Xan on Mon Dec 20, 2004 at 08:39:14 PM PST

    •  Just Another Typical Hack (4.00 / 5)

      In October 1988, when the Paul Johnson article was written, Crowley was just beginning her junior year (Colgate University, Class of 1990).  It's entirely possible that she'd read it in the context of a college course, which may have led in turn to her writing a letter to Nixon in the spring of 1989 commenting on his book 1999: Victory Without War.  Nixon took a fancy to the adoration of a college student and hired her upon graduation.  Her entire "career", such as it is, has been predicated on her association with Nixon.

      Aside from her standard-issue attacks on all Democrats (for what is Republican anger if not permanent retribution for the aftermath of Watergate), posthumous praise of Nixon has formed the sole focus of her "intellectual inquiry".  And even there, what she has written is based more upon personal recollection than on serious academic research.  For example, see this review by Russell Baker.  So she's really just another hack whose entire professional life has been determined not by any intrinsic merit but by networking among the powerful.

      And if anyone out there is going to miss Bill Safire's periodic channelling of Nixon from the grave, writing up his opinions on current events, I would surely expect to see Crowley pick up that mantle and run with it for another 40 years or so.  She can make a whole cottage industry out of her conversations with Nixon, and spin out as many articles and books as the public will stomach.  Provided, that is, that she manages to stay away from the plagiarism bug.

      Can you smell the Constitution burning?

      by The Maven on Mon Dec 20, 2004 at 10:13:30 PM PST

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      •  That review is quite revealing (none / 1)

        This part about quotes she attributes to Nixon makes me curious:
        We often seem to be listening to yet another batch of Nixon tapes or, perhaps, tapes of another Nixon so different from the Watergate tapes that he seems to have undergone a character transformation.

        A different Nixon? Perhaps a Crowley fabrication of Nixon? What would stop someone so fixated from inventing dialogue to rehabilitate her hero?


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        by KingOneEye on Mon Dec 20, 2004 at 10:40:13 PM PST

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      •  Unintentional comedy (none / 1)

        Not only plagairism, but the revisionist history is amusing.

        My reality may not conform to your ideology. Visit Delaware Liberal.

        by Unstable Isotope on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 04:10:15 AM PST

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        •  Yes But We Need to Recognize (none / 0)

          that all history is now being revised.

          These guys are every bit as hard at work correcting the past as they are correcting the present.

          We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

          by Gooserock on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 12:51:19 PM PST

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      •  WTF? (4.00 / 3)

        In October 1988, when the Paul Johnson article was written, Crowley was just beginning her junior year (Colgate University, Class of 1990).... Nixon took a fancy to the adoration of a college student and hired her upon graduation.

        She's a 1990 graduate of Colgate, but she calls herself a "foreign policy aide" to Nixon. In what capacity, exactly? She wasn't "hired" until 16 years after his resignation. What "foreign policy" was she dealing with?

        According to her WABC radio bio, she also claims:

        Upon its launch in 1996, Crowley joined the Fox News Channel, where she continues to serve as a political and international affairs analyst. She holds two Masters degrees and a Ph.D. in international affairs from Columbia University. Crowley also worked as a Foreign Policy Assistant to former President Richard Nixon from 1990 until his death in 1994.

        I mean, I'm sure it's possible, but how much work do you think she did for Nixon, given that: 1) he hadn't been conducting any foreign policy for 16 years; 2) she was apparently cramming in two Masters degrees and a Ph.D. at Columbia while "working" as a "Foreign Policy Assistant?"

        No wonder she plagiarized. She didn't have time to do any original work.

        •  Anybody check with Columbia? (none / 0)

          Soiunds like this gal is a bit disturbed.
          •  If her (ahem) scholarship is held -- (none / 1)


             -- in as high repute as Condi Rice's, then I'm sure we have some scintillating, in-depth and extremely lucid and valid analyses to look forward to.

             BenGoshi
            _________________

            "I have to go now. I feel . . . sticky." Anthony Bourdain

            by BenGoshi on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 07:41:32 AM PST

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          •  Crowley's Dissertation (4.00 / 3)

            Luckily my university subscribes to ProQuest Digital Dissertations.  Here's Crowley's:

            'Clearer than truth': Determining and preserving grand strategy. The evolution of American policy toward the People's Republic of China under Truman and Nixon

            AUTHOR  Crowley, Monica Elizabeth
            DEGREE  PhD
            SCHOOL  COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
            DATE  2000
            PAGES  493
            ADVISER  Betts, Richard

            From the abstract:

            "This dissertation attempts to establish a theoretical bridge between international explanations and domestic political explanations for how and why nations determine, sell, then modify, their core grand strategies. It is a two-level approach to explain why leaders manipulate low-level conflicts to mobilize popular support for expensive, long-term security strategies, and then once the grand strategy is established and the mobilization underway, how and why leaders adapt policies that support it. The interaction between international circumstances and domestic politics is crucial to determining how and why leaders manipulate conflict and ideology—either by stressing or de-stressing them—in order to mobilize support at home for the grand strategy or to preserve that support when it appears threatened. The evolution of U.S. policy toward the PRC during the Truman and Nixon administrations offers insight."

            Looks legit -- though who knows how much plagiarism might be in there.  You can order it through UMI/ProQuest.

            BTW, it's hard for me (an aspiring academic) to imagine writing a diss while simultaneously working for Richard Nixon and Fox News.  Not just the oily side gigs (OK, cheap shot), but the wild amount of work that'd be required.

            •  Looks legit? Looks SCARY! (4.00 / 2)

              The title, Clearer Than Truth, implies deception. As do these lines:
              • ...how and why nations determine, sell, then modify, their core grand strategies...
              • ...why leaders manipulate low-level conflicts to mobilize popular support for expensive, long-term security strategies...
              • how and why leaders adapt policies that support it
              • ...how and why leaders manipulate conflict and ideology...in order to mobilize support at home...
              Its all about constructing versions of the truth to influence behavoir.

              Clearer Than Truth = Spin.


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              by KingOneEye on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 08:31:12 AM PST

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              •  Deception: What better doctoral thesis theme (none / 0)

                for a career first at Fox, then GEMSNBC? With creds like those, Crawley is a sho-in for future WH Press Secretary, and will no doubt end up as a repubican senatwhore.

                Mentor/example/precedent: Kay Bailey Hutchinson TX

              •  Holy "Truth":This is what BUSH is doing! (none / 0)

                This is how he got us into IRAQ for cryin' out loud!

                Fuzzy only works for pets.

                by NotFuzzy on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 09:01:28 AM PST

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              •  Isn't it creepy (4.00 / 2)

                that this is what the authoritarian wing has taken away from postmodern studies?  

                "Meaning is all constructed?  Well, hell, let's construct us some!"

                "We have to remain constantly vigilant to prevent raids by those who would selfishly exploit our common heritage for their private gain." Harry Truman

                by Helena Handbag on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 09:16:09 AM PST

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                •  PoMo (4.00 / 3)

                  Bleeping exactly.  I thought extreme relativism was one of the left's (indeed, one of humanity's) intellectually weakest ideas in the 90s -- in the present decade it's being used to harm America (i.e. it's being used by the Bush administration).  There was what looked like a big upside at the beginning -- e.g. the use of relativism to promote tolerance for other cultures -- but it's devolved into a much bigger downside, bringing us not only the Bush admin thugs but also the SCLM, which has done so much harm to us in the last four years.
              •  Crowley Intro (none / 0)

                I skimmed the intro -- seemed legitimately academic (which is what I meant by "legit"; some people were raising doubts about whether or not she had a PhD), but had perceptible Machiavellian overtones.
            •  Selected Papers (none / 0)

              Here's a group of selected papers from her advisor.  And here's an image of the social network derived from his name and his associates.  He appears to be from the old school GOP.  Interestingly one of his most recent papers covers how countries can use their intelligence assets to avoid getting fooled.  
          •  Well, Nixon once said (none / 0)

            to Pat Buchanan that Crowley was "more conservative than [he]."

            Now that's disturbed.  ;-)

            Unscrewing the inscrutable since 1965

            by rhubarb on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 08:28:36 AM PST

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          •  Columbia (none / 0)

            She definitely was a PhD student at Columbia, but I thought she dropped out before completing her doctorate. I'll check.
        •  asdf (4.00 / 2)

          I've read Nixon in Winter and Nixon off the Record and it seems she was hired as a research assistant in foreign policy, and was tacitly drafted as his amanuensis, and kept pretty busy.  Nixon apparently employed her on trips abroad as an assistant, had her over to the house in the same capacity, and even cadged rides home from her--most memorably on the eve of Pat Nixon's death.

          I would not doubt that having been Nixon's Girl Friday greatly eased the way to her advanced degrees.

          Unscrewing the inscrutable since 1965

          by rhubarb on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 08:16:56 AM PST

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    •  what? (none / 1)

      xan, you gotta lotta damn gall asking me if I have rehabilitated myself! Asking if I'm moral enough to join the right-wing sound machine.

      Loved the Alice's reference! lol

      "You must be the change you wish to see in the world" Mohandas Gandhi

      by baracon on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 12:05:25 AM PST

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  •  not her worst fault (4.00 / 3)

    Based on the above quotes, I would fault her judgment more than her lack of originality:

    "His allegiance to the country, however, overrode his political self-interest."

    She's writing about NIXON???!!!

    And if Nixon's political enemies were "ruthless", I wonder what she thought of Clinton's!

    But I agree, for purposes of embarassing MSNBC and getting her the boot, pushing the plagiarism angle is the way to go.

    "We are the ones we have been waiting for" --Barack Obama reminding us we have to hold him accountable.

    by Jim in Chicago on Mon Dec 20, 2004 at 08:39:26 PM PST

  •  NICE SLEUTHING! (none / 0)

    Sent off emails to all on your list.

    Always happy to remind folks that actions have consequences.

    Democrats: For the health, prosperity and security of every single American.

    by alysheba on Mon Dec 20, 2004 at 08:41:24 PM PST

  •  Well, she did blame clinton (none / 0)

    for outrageous security risks, so at least she showed some creativity...
  •  She Is not a Crook! (4.00 / 4)

    ...either ;-)

    Policies that were wrong under George W. Bush are no less wrong because Barack Obama is in the White House. - Bob Herbert

    by GreenSooner on Mon Dec 20, 2004 at 09:52:38 PM PST

  •  MSNBC should just give Ron Reagan his own show (4.00 / 3)

    As for the plagiarism...

    borrowing one sentence and altering the wording is ok, but this woman has stolen whole paragraphs nearly verbatim!

    •  Busted out a thesaurus here and there, too... (none / 0)

      n/t

      People in Eurasia on the brink of oppression: I hope it's gonna be alright... Pet Shop Boys: Introspective

      by rgilly on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 05:01:08 AM PST

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    •  She'll fit in at MSNBC (none / 1)

      After all...they hired Mike Barnacle, the Boston columnist who resigned when it was discovered that he plagiarized jokes from George Carlin in his columns.

      Paging Doctor Dean.

      by ABBinMI on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 07:10:24 AM PST

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      •  Awww, lighten up on the lady ... (none / 0)

        Given the way Repub talking points are issued as daily group-think for these people ("omygod, the ACLU is stealing Christmas!") a talent for plagiarism & lack of independent thought should be a requirement of the gig.

        As for Barnacle, as I recall the Carlin book was barely off the best seller lists when he took those jokes ... talk about, um, barnicles.

  •  Not fair to Reagan (none / 0)

    Pairing Ronald Reagan Jr up with a known political plagerizer is not fair to Mr. Reagan. Reagan is a pretty decent guy and it demeans him to be associated with someone as tawrdry as Monica Crowley.
  •  Standards!?!?! (none / 0)

    In cable news channels!?? They're supposed to have standards all of a sudden? Whazupwitdat?
  •  Now Joey Biden (none / 0)

    is not going to like a precendent of holding 16 year old incidences of plagiarism against people and denying them nice new jobs.

    Of course, the President is not a journalist.  

    •  Biden, right...! (none / 0)

      It's starting to come back to me...plagerized a ummmm...speech was it?  From a Brit?  Can you recall the incident?  It's not as fresh as the images of his chairing the Clarence Thomas hearings and his treatment (mistreatment) of Anita Hill and her supporting witnesses.  I'll NEVER forget that.

      Tell me how you spend your time and how you spend your money -- I'll tell you what your values are.

      by oldpro on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 12:27:12 AM PST

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    •  Uh... (none / 0)

      Her plagirism took place 5 years ago. The article she plagirized was written 16 years ago.
  •  You would think (none / 1)

    They'd at least hire someone good looking.

    "When we are all guilty that will be democracy." -Albert Camus.

    by BrianL on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 12:37:11 AM PST

  •  great work, (none / 0)

    this is a big part of the war for us...to force them to start acknowledging a minimal journalistic standard...and then raise it.

    thanks for being on top of it.

    and loved all your proposed versions of the other diary, will keep an eye out for it :>

  •  Another email for MSNBC, sent. n/t (none / 0)

    they sentenced me to 20 years of boredom
    for trying to change the system from within

    by wanderindiana on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 04:40:43 AM PST

  •  terminological dispute (3.83 / 6)

    Actually, this sort of behavior is only referred to as plagiarism by people who care about the facts. The right calls it "staying on message".
  •  She is a prolific writer... (none / 0)

    NOT! Check out her single posting on here own website monicacrowley.org.

    Let her end her days on FNC.

    People in Eurasia on the brink of oppression: I hope it's gonna be alright... Pet Shop Boys: Introspective

    by rgilly on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 05:16:37 AM PST

  •  MSNBC and The Right Wing (none / 1)

    MSNBC  already has too many from the right.  Crowley should remain where she is, and Scarborough belongs on Fox. Maybe they could work together.

    Give Ron jr. his own show.

    Dick Cheney is a public servant.
    The check is in the mail.
    Santa Claus is coming to town.

    Bring them home. All of them. Now!

    by UNCmark on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 05:57:13 AM PST

  •  Agree, and will certainly write MSNBC and others (none / 0)

    Although it's worth mentioning that the content of what she says here would be outrageous and false even if it weren't plagarized (especially the bit about the 1960 election being "corrupt"--no liberal should accept that accusation as true without demanding proof, and I haven't seen one iota of proof).  

    The era of "the era of big government is over" is over.

    by lungfish on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 06:29:07 AM PST

  •  Contact MSNBC and tell them we are their viewers (none / 0)

    I was content to lurk till the election.  Now I feel we must all act and let the media know that we will no longer tolerate their enabling right wing misinformation.  I firmly believe that the bulk of the viewers of non-Fox cable are not interested in the false equivalencies that pit facts against right wing propaganda.  

    We need to contact MSNBC to tell them that we are their viewers and we don't want them to befuddle the news with propagandists.  

    While we're at it we should tell them that we don't want Tucker Carlson to have a show.

    •  Ethics, schmethics . . . (none / 0)

      "Ethics? ethics? The right "don't need no stinkin' ethics!"

      This is right on target.

      Shouldn't be surprising, I guess, though disappointing.  When the Right continues to behave as if the rules apply to everyone except them, it's up to the rest of us to voice outrage.

      For those of us who teach professional writing, this sure sets the bar low for "success."

      I've added my thoughts to MSNBC also and will continue to press for responsible journalists to continue the fight.  Who's left, with Bill Moyers now gone?

  •  Well she does have a PhD from Columbia (none / 1)

    I checked on Dissertation Abstracts International, and she does have a PhD, dated 2000.  The abstract is not terribly long, but I don't really see the need to post it.  She compares treatment of China under Truman and Nixon.  In fact, it is titled "Clearer than truth": Determining and preserving grand strategy. The evolution of American policy toward the People's Republic of China under Truman and Nixon".  It sounds appropriately theoretical, at least from the synopsis.  
    I kinda see this as another one of those "why are there no conservatives in academe" answers.  She obviously can make much more money presenting herself as a commentator than teaching and trying to get published in scholarly journals.  Besides, then she would have to grade all those freshman papers...
    •  Doh (none / 0)

      The abstract is not terribly long, but I don't really see the need to post it.

      Sorry, Annette, I didn't read to the end and posted a chunk of the abstract above...

      •  Crowley's dedication -- no joke (none / 0)

        "For Harry Truman, Richard Nixon, Dean Acheson, and Henry Kissinger: Strategic Thinkers and Actors"

        Not family, significant others, professors, or pets.  That strikes me as a bit odd, but maybe I'm too mawkish in my academic sentiments.

        •  Easy Explanation (none / 1)

          She was built on the Stepford Planet, where they get those other blond, right-wing drones.  Soulless robots have no family or pets to dedicate their pre-programmed writings to.  

          "We have to remain constantly vigilant to prevent raids by those who would selfishly exploit our common heritage for their private gain." Harry Truman

          by Helena Handbag on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 09:12:54 AM PST

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    •  Dissertation (none / 0)

      "She compares treatment of China under Truman and Nixon."

      Does she mention the vociferous right-wing promotion of Madame Chiang (yes, they had a Wurlitzer even back then) while Truman was trying to deal with China?  

      I honestly do not expect an answer, but just wanted to share the thought which leapt into my mind.

      Republicans are afflicted by CHIDS-Chronic Humor and Irony Deficit Syndrome, pronounced 'kids' with a parental sigh.

      by stumpy on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 03:38:44 PM PST

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  •  TV News Standards (none / 0)

    The standards of television news aren't that high. Doris Kearns Goodwin has had more than a little plagiarism trouble (also available at Slate), but her pundit standing doesn't appear to be affected.
  •  Not plagirism but a visionary ahead of her time (none / 0)

    Boy, I bet the SCLM is not going to judge her too harshly as they kind of like, do that shit all they time as SOP and call them "talking points".  

    So really she was ahead of her time...which really does not make you feel any better, does it?

    Tug

    Impeach Cheney now.

    by Tug on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 08:21:34 AM PST

  •  one in the same (none / 0)

    Crowley likely suffers from Ann Coulter disease: They both talk the talk, but they can't write worth shit.  Remember, Coulter has been fired for her rambling and incoherent articles. I suspect the only way Crowley can write well is to use other people's words.

    Don't Legitimize Fox News.
    "Democrats have the heart to care."

    by jeepdad on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 08:41:50 AM PST

  •  Stomach distress bags: twofer (none / 0)

    The msm have made me sick for years, but this is more than even my cast iron can ... digest.

    At least if Crowley were going to co-host with Bob Novak I could save on stomach distress bags by only having to vomit once.  It would be a sort of a "twofer."

    It is better to meet a mother bear robbed of her cubs than to meet a fool busy with a stupid project. -- Pr. 17:12

    by november3rd on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 09:36:54 AM PST

  •  What an asinine idea (none / 1)

    The whole "liberal and conservative, head to head!" idea for a TV news program is SO last century. They need to ditch the concept completely. I mean come on, isn't that completely played out? How about an in-depth analysis of the news, no one does that anymore.

    Crowley lacks credibility, they'll kick her off. They pulled a Bernie Kerik and didn't vet her thoroughly.

  •  I just went to MediaMatters.org.... (4.00 / 2)

    ... to inform them of this. They already have a link to it here on dKos. Damn, they're good.

    Media Matters


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    by KingOneEye on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 10:29:31 AM PST

  •  She is dead wrong (none / 0)

    Not only is she a plagurist, but she chose a commentary that was absolutely dead wrong about just about everything!

    I guess this is the state of media. They just want a talking head. They don't care if it is credible.

  •  This is just pathetic (none / 0)

    Anyone reduced to plagiarizing Paul "Spanker" Johnson is a sorry soul indeed.

    - - - - -
    John Lacny
    http://www.johnlacny.com

    Tell no lies, claim no easy victories

    by johnlacny on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 01:34:05 PM PST

  •  She appears the typical GOP stooge (none / 0)

    and noise machine, regardless of the Dr. Crowley, emphasized at each appearance, when I used to watch that media. Not now. All the more insulting to scholarship, but who knew??
  •  My letter to MSGOP (none / 0)

    When Monica Crowley filled in for Joe Scarborough
    for a couple of days last month, I wrote the following to MSNBC:
    Dear MSNBC,
    Bring Joe Back immediately.  Monica Crowley is the most robotic, over plasti-surgicized right-wing Barbie Doll I have ever seen on Television.
    She belongs on Fox News, not MSNBC.  She does not even have the pretense of objectivity.  She
    interviewed Amy Goodman, and when Amy made a
    valid point critical of the Iraq War, Monica cut her off and said that it did not matter, that the American people voted for George W. Bush and
    obviously support his policies.  Joe Scarborough
    is also a right-wing person but at least pretends to be objective.  I don't know what is wrong with Joe Scarborough, but by comparison with Monica Crowley he is great!  Even Pat Buchanan is better than she is.  

    My new letter is in the mail.  Everyone needs to write to MSNBC today.  Ron Reagan needs his own show or to share it with a progressive.  He will end up like Alan Colmes on Hannity and Colmes. Monica Crowley will totally dominate.

  •  Gander-Goose? (none / 0)

    Keep in mind the fixation on questioning the integrity of every aspect of the NYT in the wake of the Blair dust-up and the instant pillorying of Rather when the FACTS of what he was reporting were never in question.

    Republicans are afflicted by CHIDS-Chronic Humor and Irony Deficit Syndrome, pronounced 'kids' with a parental sigh.

    by stumpy on Tue Dec 21, 2004 at 03:30:11 PM PST

  •  take a look at media matters (none / 0)

    Sure as shooting, the fine folks over at Media Matters have elevated this to their roster of top stories.

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